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Originally Posted by Joe
One of the parties involved have promised never to return in reply to me essentially saying "stop the shit or leave". The reason for the not wanting to ever come back is because there is so much bad blood now the internet is not big enough for the 2 of them it seems... How juvenile is that?
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Joe is talking about me here. I will return to clarify this point, as it seems that Joe is not telling the whole truth.
Since it's time for soul baring....
I voluntarily stopped involving myself in Procooling for about 2 months (aside from the odd motorbike post), to see if the crap would pass. It didn't.
Over that time I have seen more and more long-term members cease to post, even when I had left well enough alone. The insults and jab did not stop though, nor were they ever kept in check, despite a number of magnanimous policies laid down, that never held up to much of anything. More and more often people would just say out of the blue in various locations "Man - Procooling has turned to shit!", and this was being said long after I voluntarily ceased to post here.
The crap didn't stop though, I had enough, and I had enough of the content here on Procooling that was destroying the site's quality.
I determined to make an effort. That effort was to bring things to head, to get the forum moderators to actually act on their policies that they were ignoring, and an attempt to see a return to more civil times here at Procooling.
Yes, I was acting like a bit of an ass, but doing so on purpose to get the forum moderators to act. Now it seems that they have. I consider my job here done.
In return, Joe decided to label me a baby and a juvenile, even though I had tried a number of times to raise the issue privately to him of the damage that Bill's unchecked slagging off of everything (not just me, everything) was causing to the forum's credibility overall. Again, I was just acting as a bearer of feedback that I had been receiving.
I guess that I shouldn't be surprised with Joe's attitude towards me. He's tried so hard to ignore the issue for so long that he's willing to lash out at anyone who forces him to wake up from his slumber.
I consider Bill's and mine personal differences to be minor in terms of the overall damage that Bill's presence was causing to Procooling as a whole. The continual bagging of other companies, the bagging of enthusiast ideas, the slamming of anyone who even remotely disagreed, and all within his private space where he could edit threads to suit his whim.
I opted to voluntarily leave Procooling, as I intimated to Joe, because of reasons of his attitude towards me. Nothing at all to do with Bill.
Joe. You needed a wake up call. I gave it. You responded immaturely when I forced your hand for the good of the forums as a whole.
That is why I chose to take another voluntary leave of absence.
Thank you.