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Etacovda · 03-08-2006, 04:57 PM

I think the point is here, that if a reasonable person is this objectional about something, then they shouldnt be silenced about it if they have reasonable input.

Personally i dont believe how many people accepted the change to the TTV testing method, even though it flys in the face of everything else done in this site over the time ive been reading. The whole TTV thing, in my mind, has too many variables; others agree, but for some 'professionals' what they say, goes... which is pretty bloody useless for progress.

Im also amused that you're all surprised at the reaction of some of the people here. As i said to some people on irc yesterday, the TTV 'waterblock' (lol) tester seems to be the commercial 'excuse' for developing cheaper products. Thats the problem that watercooling co's face, the community believes (through hype, not realism) that the cpu block will make a seriously significant difference in clock speeds or performance. The reality is, that it wont. Procooling (whilst ive been reading, anyway) has been about that last half a degree, not about commercial viability and performance/price ratio (for both the consumer and the designer/manufacturer). The refusal to account for all the variables is an abhorrence to the fundamental ideals of science.

If the TTV was to be seriously validiated, there would be no concern here...

Theres a fundamental problem here, which WILL NOT go away. This thread will change nothing, and without these two people, procooling will more than likely drift in to an inane dribble like many other forums (plus some snap server stuff on the side, but they're just here for that

). If it doesnt, its lost far too much and will definitely take a long time to come back. Hell, [H] forums are looking to have a better tester now....

03-08-2006, 04:57 PM	#19
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	Re: An End to the Insanity. I think the point is here, that if a reasonable person is this objectional about something, then they shouldnt be silenced about it if they have reasonable input. Personally i dont believe how many people accepted the change to the TTV testing method, even though it flys in the face of everything else done in this site over the time ive been reading. The whole TTV thing, in my mind, has too many variables; others agree, but for some 'professionals' what they say, goes... which is pretty bloody useless for progress. Im also amused that you're all surprised at the reaction of some of the people here. As i said to some people on irc yesterday, the TTV 'waterblock' (lol) tester seems to be the commercial 'excuse' for developing cheaper products. Thats the problem that watercooling co's face, the community believes (through hype, not realism) that the cpu block will make a seriously significant difference in clock speeds or performance. The reality is, that it wont. Procooling (whilst ive been reading, anyway) has been about that last half a degree, not about commercial viability and performance/price ratio (for both the consumer and the designer/manufacturer). The refusal to account for all the variables is an abhorrence to the fundamental ideals of science. If the TTV was to be seriously validiated, there would be no concern here... Theres a fundamental problem here, which WILL NOT go away. This thread will change nothing, and without these two people, procooling will more than likely drift in to an inane dribble like many other forums (plus some snap server stuff on the side, but they're just here for that ). If it doesnt, its lost far too much and will definitely take a long time to come back. Hell, [H] forums are looking to have a better tester now.... __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights. Last edited by Etacovda; 03-08-2006 at 05:05 PM.