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Originally Posted by pHaestus
Oh and since the idea that Intel would be producing these for PR or fluff purposes goes:
As a condition of use, it is EXPRESSLY forbidden to reference a TTV in any advertising or PR. Intel doesn't WANT ttv wars or PR hassles; they want acceptable cooling performance available on their next-gen systems and launches that go off without a hitch.
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You are making this PR debate issue up yourself. I am not dismissing the capability of the testbed. Not even the tester for the most part. Just saying the results that are published by the manufacture may not be as consistent with the actual results of said test bench. They will filter through the data and take the best results found even if it cannot be replicated and publish it. if the results are questioned (which you seem to be against? defies the entire purpose of reviews IMO) then they whip out that small bit of data and say see what our high tech bench told us.
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Originally Posted by pHaestus
The ttv vs Cathar-style testing debate is actually a "should you test things analytically or do a half ass job but market the **** out of it on forums" debate. Obviously you like the latter; you've made it clear that you don't even see the purpose of temperatures in evaluation of cooling products.
FYI my PCs were all air-cooled when I was testing waterblocks constantly (no time to mess with them) but now that I am more or less idle I have a couple of wced systems.
To be honest Jaydee if your opinion is the majority one here, then I don't think that I have anything else to contribute to this site either. I suppose I'm not your breed of hobbiest either.
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Answer me this then pH. Does Cathars blocks not perform top of the line? Are you going to deny that? Now how can they perform top of the line if your version of half assed testing isn't good enough? It was good enough to put out a top of the line product.
Also are you denying that Cathar has not shared any usefull design info while doing this forum marketing as you call it? Are you saying all his posts were spam? A lot of us that actualy build water blocks would disagree.
As for the hobby maybe the hobby should be defined. I always thought of it as apart of building better performing computers that we actualy use.
It seems to me there are 4-5 guys that feel the hobby is testing water cooling equipment and that is what this site is about? Not really using the equipment just testing it for whatever reason or agenda that dosn't really reflect end users of that equipment.
Maybe I am wrong and that is why Joe started this site. To discuss testing of water cooling gear and not computers using water cooling gear.
Hell if I know anymore.
