[pHaestus]

Um you say all mfgr data is worthless and suspect. Yea it's good to be skeptical, esp of companies that run out of garages or drop ship everything. But the real world in general has standards and governing boards to narrowly define methods and materials and the entire procedure of performance validation.

See ASTM; IEEE; many others. What do they all share in common? A group of educated technical people with common interest and seeking a standard way to address technical problems and objectively evaluate performance.

That is exactly what Intel provided; and it gets thrown out by our panel of experts here in favor of methods that we've already dismissed as unacceptable 5 years ago (Cathar's MBM temp measurements are being held as the superior method?). Viewed a year ago this would've been laughed off of our forums. But now it takes hold and instead it's the educated posters who keep quiet.

If you want to be a Luddite then fine. But don't try to drag me along with you.