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Originally Posted by pHaestus
And it is personal. This whole shit storm has become an us vs. them thing, and I am sorry but I am going to side with the people who have training, experience, and education in technical matters. We have a union, after all.
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It never had to be personal. We were pursuing this in a scientific manner, until someone started throwing the insults around, gosh darn, for daring to ask questions.
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The crap about the ttv has poisoned what is, in my mind, the only realistically attainable way of CPU-based testing. That being the Socket 775 with TC in top of IHS. It's also run off or silenced pretty much all of the people I cared about interacting with in this hobby. So yea I'm an angry bitter man. Enjoy.
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I thought we were trying to figure out a way in which we could quantify the unknowns.
Why did that have to become personal?
When did the enthusiast user base lose faith that it has the capacity to cater for more variables, and out achieve something that comes in a box from some commercial entity, to the point that we all throw our hands up in the air and say it's all too hard?
Incoherent is keeping the faith alive, and is doing an excellent job. bobo is analysing it all too as well. You have your extensive experience too.
We have a mountain of experience here across many individuals.
Since when did we all decide that we couldn't do better? I mean, isn't that the attitude that started this whole web-site in the first place? That somewhere, somehow, a bunch of collective enthusiasts can come up with ways that equal or better what some commercial entity is pushing out?
When did that spark die? Why did it die? I've been arguing for that spark to come back, not against it. When did we all throw our hands up in the air and say "Nope. Can't do better. Sure there may be issues with the boxed thing, but screw it! Let's give up!"