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Unread 09-08-2006, 10:45 AM   #37
DVL73
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Default Re: watercooling lost its magic

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Originally Posted by Madnys
I would like to see some more info on the water cooled PC, PICs included as Water is 100x better than Air for cooling, stop talking out your arse.
Related to post from Jag, above ... I don't see particular problems with "visual" modding as you may have really surprising results and more importantly some of us are (still) really appreciating the coexistence of art (may I say fashion) & form or minor edge towards the art by slightly sacrificing the form - especially if done properly. At the end, I do really believe that it's possible to combine the art with the raw and uninspiring form of the PC, especially in WC sector.


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Originally Posted by Madnys
Even with after market coolers a good well thought out WC setup in a good case built by someone who knows exactly how to get the best out of WC will outpreform AIR by 5-10C easily.
Man, because of the dodgy airflow in my case (and yes, I didn't want to introduce 4x fans to cure this), I had really "decent" temperature drop in the range of 30*C, especially for my GPU. Also, my radiator is placed externally. Everything is dandy when you are cooling just the CPU. Try to include the hot GPU (like X1900) in the air cooling game and you will see what is happening after few hours of heavy gaming session (especially latest titles, designed really to utilise all those pretty pixel shaders). Fan will "scream" and for some people temps were in the high 80*C range, especially with not-so-good case airflow. Shocking it is. Not to mention the crossfire/SLI set-up ... with dual cards. So, gaming does suffer and there is a need for more speed - especially because the new era of widescreen monitors is approaching. You will not have the problems like "do I need more speed", but what to do with all that ridiculous heat inside of your case.

WC and HTPC integration is interesting subject too. Noise of every single HTPC I tried is simply unbearable for my living room - and my living room is not so noise friendly: wooden floor, wooden blinds, nothing to absorb the noise. Then, you have the increased power consumption of modern PC and we all know who is suffering the most in this respect: PSU. That means more cooling power. Why not integrate the WC into the PSU ? (safely of course). Noise generated by the PSU is probably on the second place, overall.


Anyhow, it's normal that people with great minds about the WC subject have identity crysis in the times like this. Purpose and "mass need" is still undefined, especially on the practical - consumer level. Although, Intel had some "ideas":

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03...liquid_cooler/

&

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/295


I think that WC will have the comeback. Great one too Then ... magic will be gone for good and we will probably question ourselves on this very forum "why on earth WC had to go global?"

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