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Originally Posted by bitor
Yeah, I saw the "Complete Guardian OS units/with drives" on ebay. Looks like Phoenix32 is dumping a few. I guess he is going for a bigger/better model. I also saw two just tonight for around $500. Still out of my price range :0(
bitor
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Not exactly. Right now, I have, 2 x 4500 with 2TB, 1 x 4500 with 1TB, 3 x 4400 with 2 TB, and 3 x 4400 with 1 TB. That is 9 Guardian Snap Servers with 14 TB! I am not going to a "better" unit, I just have way more than I want or need. Besides, define "better" unit. I think the 4400, 4200, 4500, 15000 family were the best Snap Appliance/Adaptec ever did.
Oh yeah, and I also recently sold my 15000 and 2 x 4500 (all three with 2TB). I am just thinning the herd, that's all.
Oh yeah, btw. I am sure you did not intend to undermine me there, but just to make sure people don't think I am being greedy;
You said you just saw two for about $500. Please keep in mind, I would bet just about anything they have hard drives and/or drive sleds missing, or they have old drives, etc... -AND- you can bet your front teeth at those prices the memory has not been upgraded and the OS is an older version.
Why is that important? I am glad you asked.
Because what good is a snap server if you can't rely on the drives without fear? Most of these units are well over 3 years old and have the original hard disks in them, if at all. Those drives are due for failure any time.
And, quality Registered ECC memory is not cheap, but makes a big difference in these more powereful units.
Plus lastly, if you want to be compatible with Windows XP and/or Win2K03, much less anything newer, you need at least OS version 4.2.054, and I would still recommend 4.4.049. And, for Vista, OS X newer versions, and newer Windows Server versions, you must have OS 4.4.049. After all the conversation on this forum, I am sure by now everyone knows how expensive the OS upgrades are.
FYI, Western Digital RE (RAID Edition) drives are by far the very best drives you can put into these units, and I am 100% sure David and anyone in the know would agree. But, those drives come at a price. Unless you can buy them in large bulk, or find a very awesome deal, the WD RE 250 GB drives are like $90 plus shipping, each, or more.
I am not sure if you meant $500 each, or $500 for two, so I will just say $250 for one. Which I might add is a very damn good price for a fully working unit (no sleds or anythng else missing and operational).
So let's take that $250 unit, add in $50 to $75 in memory, put in $375 worth of drives, and pay $600 for the OS upgrade. That comes to $1275 once you're done. And this is all assuming there is nothing wrong with or missing from that $250 unit (and I would not bet on it at that price).
Kind of makes the prices I am aksing for those units seem smaller, don't it?
Again Bitor, I don't think you meant it that way, but I would guess a few people reading it took it that way, so I needed to clarify. I am charging as little for those units as I am able, and they are very good working units.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SNAP-APPLIANCE-S...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/QUANTUM-SNAP-APP...QQcmdZViewItem
Or, just go to eBay, Computers and Networking, and do a Search for "Snap Appliance"
P.S. I wasn't going to post them again, but after having to explain, I figured I might as well.
P.S.S. BTW Bitor, I got a little secret for you, so don't tell anyone. I was planning on, that when the first of those items I have up for sale gets a bid, I am going to end the auction and sell to that buyer. Meaning they will essentially get a buy-it-now for the starting price. But I did not put that in my auctions, I wanted it to be a nice surprise for someone. So Shhhh, don't tell anyone. And it will ONLY be for the first one of those items to get a bid. I am only telling you because I know you have been wanting one for a long time, along with a number of people here on the forum (as well as the drives I can't talk about). But that has been my plan.