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Unread 03-25-2002, 11:52 PM   #35
Marco
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Originally posted by Joe
You need to look at the bigger picture in the writing not one sentence at a time.
Hey, I'm just trying to help by making things as clear as possible.

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Originally posted by Joe
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The water coming back from a radiator on a H2O rig really may not be much cooler than the incoming coolant into the radiator. This is a factor of how effective the radiator is for the volume/speed/type of coolant you are moving through it. Of course the closer to ambient the better.
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I think it's important to note at this point that the difference in temperature across the radiator itself is going to be actually rather small. Water in the entire loop should ideally be at as similar a temperature at possible, as that is the temperature at which heat loss in the radiator(and along the way) exactly matches heat gain in the waterblock."


Isn’t that what I said... Just not as over worded?
I guess I failed to express what I meant clearly. Is closer to ambient better? If it's closer to ambient, then conversely that means that the flow rate is lower and the water exiting the block is at higher temp. This means that the water goes thru a greater temp rise in the block. Averaging the temp in the block, it will be the same as if the flow rate had been faster, and thus the temperatures on the "hot" and "cold" side of the loop been closer. So how is it better when rad output is closer to ambient?

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Originally posted by Joe
Maybe you missed a line that I wrote:
"Just as with any other cooling, the movement of the coolant is vital to how well the entire system works. This is a topic that many people differ on, and some claim it makes no difference in reality for our cooling systems. That may be true, but if you are designing a cooling system, why not do it right?"

the difference may be VERY SMALL... But why would you spend that much money and time on a cooling system just to design it half assed?
If it makes no difference then however you do it, it is still right...
There is nothing half-assed about putting the pump anywhere in the loop. What would be half-assed would be getting a weak pump.

That said, I agree with what pH has to say about small cases. If it doesn't increase the difficulty of putting the system together, go ahead and put the pump wherever you want. However, if trying to put the components in a specific order gives you some technical problems, keep in mind that the effect it has is virtually negligible, so there is no need to lose any sleep over it.




You've addressed all the more subjective issues I raised, but how about the more technical ones?

In any case yes I did like the article, what I'm trying to do is just try to help to improve it by voicing my views for discussion. Please don't take this as me trying to attack your work, I am not!
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