[jtroutma]

ColdFlare:

I will try to put this as delicately as possible.

Obviously you have a "misunderstanding" about how CPU's are manufacuted and designed. A core shrink is GOOD for heat because the smaller the chip, the LESS voltage needed to run it and so LESS heat is generated! Not to mention that Intel is using the SAME core size right now on their latest P4 CPUs. When you look at a P4 chip, you are looking at a big heatspreader, NOT THE CORE. The core is inside the heatspreader. I will give Intel a lot of credit for doing this for one reason only; it is near impossible to do physical damage to the CPU CORE when attaching a heatsink to a P4 where the Athlon you have to be careful.

PhreeNet has a very valid point in which AMD chips do run hotter and thus requiring more cooling to keep them stable and that will cost more $$$$ for the OEM dealers.

Also as for AMD pushing back their supposed Thourghbred line a month....... Hey at least they didnt pull an Intel and release an overclocked CPU to the masses that would fail 2/3 times and then have to recall all of them! (Original release of the PIII 1.133Ghz)

Cold Flare, nothing personal but PLEASE do some ore research on the topic before you continue.... it will save us all a lot of headacks. Your opinion IS your opinion, just please get more information about it. Thank you.