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Originally posted by webmedic
Not true as it's totaly hardware. Most of the people griping about it are frustrated because it reads so much higher than the thermistor when under load. I've tested it well enough to know that the results are pretty good already. On the epox they usea winbond chip to read the temps from the xp diode. So under windows the readout is coming direct from the winbond chip.
What they may be experiancing is that the timings are different on some bios to either slow or speed up the system. To slow down in case of compatibility problems and to speed up for performance. Some bios's work better than others depending on your actual hardware. Some motherboards are closer to spek than others and can handle the timeings others have a dud part somewere that causes problems so they use a bios with relaxed timings. Due to the timings your cpu may actually be running at a higher clock than the bios indicates. This could cause the temp differences. Asus are know to run there boards oc'd from the factory at default settings to make them look faster.
I agree about the simulated cpu but when I do it it will be done right and will allow for much more exact testing.
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Well I will take your word for, but some people report 9-10C differences after switching to a newer bios. I can't see that being all timmings as those are huge temp changes. I have not looked into what is what on the new probes and how they are read so I will not argue and your word is usually good and you definatly have been way more involved with computers than I have the last 5 months.
In any event it really shouldn't matter if the probe is off as long as you never change ANYTHING to make it read different. That way however off or on the probe is it will have the same offset on every block tested and the results will still be usable. For example if the probe is 5C off it will be 5C off for every block tested. That way we can still see which cooles better. The overall temp means jack as every system cools different but the difference between the overall temp is the key to seeing what can do what. The biggest concern I have with using an AMD system is it is so easy to mount a block wrong and get bad results. I know as I have done it a few times. I simple remount can get you 5-10C cooler temps than before. Thats the worst thing about the 4 hole hold down on the tiny amd core. If one corner is to tight it pulls the pother 3 corners up and you get higher temps. Even the springs don't make a lot of difference but they do help a little. What I want to see is air temp, water temp, cpu temp. Humidity? Sure why not. And yes a picture of the thermal paste install on every block would be a bonus. I agree with the last poster as thermal paste not being used correctly can cause bad temps. Been there done that! I also agree with the last poster on lapping the core. It will be a tidious task but I think it would be a good idea. lapping the block though I don't know. I personally would like to see results from retail blocks as they are when you would get them as if you where the customer. Then maybe lap it after the first test and see if it does any better, but of course that adds in extra time and energy.
Non the less your efforts will be appriciated by us all. Your website is looking real good!