hmmm, bigben2k? wasn't that you that was praising them heatercore4u guys couple of weeks ago? bad xperience..?
anyway, i'm all with you; for the price of that black ice, u could buy 3 brand new carheatercores that have +/- same dimensions. u just have some more hastle to mount them in a not ghetto way. some call that part of the fun.
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