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Originally posted by bigben2k
Jaydee, I see your point, and I agree, but I think that the new Thoroughbred core is going to make us throw out a lot of ideas.
I would think that the fact that AMD specifications now require all HSF bases (not the fins) to be of copper, would be a big clue.
But hey, that's just my .02$ ...
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I am not just talking about AL vrs. Copper I mean even the lower performance Copper vrs. Higher performance Copper aswell. A few C will not help anything.
The only thing the T-Bred core will change in design is the mounting, other than the the same design that are out now will suffice as they seem to work just fine with 220watt pelts and I highly doubt T-Breds will put out that much heat.
Waterblocks can't get much better without active cooling period.
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Originally posted by morphling1
What's the point if you can't be convinced otherwise.... but even 5°C means a lot of difference in watercooling and therefore overclocking, and the difference only grows with larger heat output not even counting smaller die ....
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5C does not mean a lot of difference. I been OCing for 7 years and 5C means jack anymore. It may get you 50mhz but what good is 50mhz on a 2000mhz stock CPU??? If you want to get REAL results overclocking you will have to use active cooling otherwise it is a waste of time. 5C used to gain you 200mhz sometimes but not anymore. You right there is no convincing me as I been there done that and all for not much in the end. All that water cooling is good for is midrange overclocking and quiter computers.
Also the T-Bred is supposed to have the head spreader so die size is not much of an issue.....
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Originally posted by fixittt
HEY IM ONE OF THE WANNABES
I have tried to follow this tread and keep my mouth sut on alot of things. And I think I have done a good job. Its no secret that I design the blocks. And my experiance is that copper is just a small amount better then aluminum. Sure all the techy babble is there. but I dont reley on post, or published words. I have to see for my self. Im a hands on kind of guy. Personally I did not get any speed increase or higher overclock with my existing hardware. Sure it ran a few degrees hotter, but was still stable at my highest clock speed thure all tests. But one thing people have to look at who make and sell these things. Aluminum works great. I have proven to myself that fact. Whos gonna buy aluminum blocks? Not many people. So if you want to sell something, yolu have to sell what people are going to buy. Hence the copper based product. I would much reather work with aluminum all day long, then mess with one peice of copper. But oh well.
I to this day am running an aluminum based water block. And will not change. Unless future changes warrant it. Also anyone who is wanting to design something for todays hardware is going to be re-designing when tomarrow comes. So think ahead a bit. plan, so you can still be having fun tomarrow.
My little pennies worth.
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Same here....... Well said.