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Joe · 09-03-2002, 09:02 PM

To everyone.. just my take on all this banter lately…

I have noticed a lot lately that there seems to be no patients for any "noob" who doesn’t know cooling inside and out. This could also because people claim numbers or qualities of products they know nothing about. It’s the same in every industry. I see it in Automotive, IT, Media, and now cooling; there is always someone who claims something as fact when it’s really fiction. Most of the time its simply because the person doesn’t know enough of the technology to validate the comments he’s posting. That on its own is bad, but not as bad as people who see this and choose to tear the person apart and not offer any suggestion to really help the kid.

Now if comments come from someone established, and who SHOULD know what’s going on before posting facts and numbers. There is less tolerance with that because to become established and to want to be seen as that in the field, you need to research before you post. But even at that, helping people understand the technology is much better than rubbing their nose in it. People aren’t dogs, rubbing their nose in the problem and humiliating them wont fix it. What it will do is just build a wall between that person and someone who may really know what’s going on, but is just too arrogant to spell it out. Its also much more simple for people to act like assholes than to be helpful.

We are here to learn right? What I would like to see is more constructive debate, or criticism, and less arrogant banter between people who all think they are right and wont come down to a level of communication where people can actually learn.

Tolerance. It may take little patients or time to spell some stuff out... and may go against that whole ego thing... but in the end I think it will be much more productive.

Also... NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO AGREE!. There are multiple schools of thought. Some folks are concerned about different aspects than others. Some are engineers, some are purely performance driven and could care less about engineering. Not everyone has a Ph.D... Not everyone wants one

I dunno, I am getting off the soap box... now you kids play nice.

I also may be wrong.. it happens..

09-03-2002, 09:02 PM	#4
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	To everyone.. just my take on all this banter lately… I have noticed a lot lately that there seems to be no patients for any "noob" who doesn’t know cooling inside and out. This could also because people claim numbers or qualities of products they know nothing about. It’s the same in every industry. I see it in Automotive, IT, Media, and now cooling; there is always someone who claims something as fact when it’s really fiction. Most of the time its simply because the person doesn’t know enough of the technology to validate the comments he’s posting. That on its own is bad, but not as bad as people who see this and choose to tear the person apart and not offer any suggestion to really help the kid. Now if comments come from someone established, and who SHOULD know what’s going on before posting facts and numbers. There is less tolerance with that because to become established and to want to be seen as that in the field, you need to research before you post. But even at that, helping people understand the technology is much better than rubbing their nose in it. People aren’t dogs, rubbing their nose in the problem and humiliating them wont fix it. What it will do is just build a wall between that person and someone who may really know what’s going on, but is just too arrogant to spell it out. Its also much more simple for people to act like assholes than to be helpful. We are here to learn right? What I would like to see is more constructive debate, or criticism, and less arrogant banter between people who all think they are right and wont come down to a level of communication where people can actually learn. Tolerance. It may take little patients or time to spell some stuff out... and may go against that whole ego thing... but in the end I think it will be much more productive. Also... NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO AGREE!. There are multiple schools of thought. Some folks are concerned about different aspects than others. Some are engineers, some are purely performance driven and could care less about engineering. Not everyone has a Ph.D... Not everyone wants one I dunno, I am getting off the soap box... now you kids play nice. I also may be wrong.. it happens.. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.