[jaydee]

Originally posted by pHaestus
Jaydee to comparatively test waterblocks then flow rate measurement is NOT optional. This goes back to the whole nature of empirical observations. Perhaps I should clarify:

Empirical: the theoretical calculations are not available to do things purely from first principles (ab initio) and so experimental data is required and a model is built that fits this data.

If you were to test a lot of waterblocks without measuring and controlling flow rates then you will find performance differences that are dominated by the flow rate of the block. Does this mean block a is better than block b? No it just means that for block b that perhaps a different pump is required. Gotta be careful with empirical stuff or you'll get burned (see "copper takes in heat better but aluminum gives up heat better")

Yes, I know this and I am not arguing what you are saying asI agree. But this does not apply to what I am trying to get answered. I am talking about someone that has a water cooled system already hooked up and just want to see his temps more accuratly so he will not get nailed when he tries to bragg his system off.

re: CPU temps. Working on it for AMD; Nevin at AS had some interesting pdfs from Intel (check my worklog) regarding variability of CPU die temps on P4s

I read that already. Interesting stuff!

Sure. The DIgitecs aren't actually integrated into MBM . For a prefab solution the Crystalfontz 633 with a probe epoxied under the center of a ceramic CPU is pretty good; make sure either as much airflow as possible or absolutely none around the socket. You could do the same with a Fluke 2190 series thermometer with a Type T tc or hell even a compunurse since 2-3C error doesn't bother you at all.

This is definatly what I am looking for! I would like to get more around .5 accuracy though just to say I can. So would the Crystalfontz 633 or the Fluke 2190 do this?

re: water chiller. You were skirting the issue of wb performance by adding a chiller to the mix to achieve a higher overclock. I skirted the issue by just adding a faster CPU. Same difference; skirting the issue in either case.

You know damn well that real overclockers are not going to buy a faster CPU. No matter how impractical it is it just doesn't work that way and you know it! So your answer was taken sarcastically by me. If it wasn't ment to be I am sorry.

Also if your answer was serious then pretend you already have the fastest CPU you can buy and want to continue. Remember the question is ment for overclockers not water block makers.