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gone_fishin · 10-07-2002, 02:35 PM

By MadDogMe
"A block alone does not make or break a system 'regardless of pump and rad and tube', never has never will, that is my opinion"
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Strongly vague opinion if you ask me. Regardless of pump, rad, tube. So given any combo of these, the waterblock cannot break the system? Go get yourself the BlueCooling's BTMS block and live with it

And the reverse is true also, take an open design 1/2" swiftech and choke it off with 1/4" tubing and a grab bag of 90 degree elbows, throw in a tiny rad with 1/4" barbs and a little 12volt 1/2lpm squirt pistol of a pump, that will most surely effect the system. Now just because you can screw up more drastically with the combination of all the other parts in the loop does not mean that a block is insigificant in the equation.

by bigben2k
"The thinner the base plate, the more heat is available to be taken away, but if the flow rate isn't high enough, then the heat just sits there, and performance suffers" end quote

Technically I don't follow the first part. Increasing surface area makes more heat available to the coolant and the heat transfer rate (by velocity and properties of coolant) determines how much is stored up in the bp, higher velocity means higher transfer rate and lower block temp which results in lower die temp. Thinner bp means less stored heat energy to begin with.
The second part yes, higher flow rate brings higher coolant velocity.

I think what Cathar is trying to point out, is that he is using a restriction as a nozzle directly over strategic areas in his block. This lowers the overall flow of the loop but increases heat transfer because of the extreme velocity directed at various points of heat transfer, for a beneficial tradeoff. He is not using a restrictive barb nor do I.
I in fact do use a 5/8" OD barb as the inlet on my design.
The inner geometry of my block creates a velocity change throughout the short flow paths of the block and directly over the center of the core but also does not sacrifice as much overall flow volume. Both are radically different than what is available in the various mazes and open designs for an improvement,in my opinion

Edit: Observation, Did the other "ultimate" thread max out or something?:shrug:

10-07-2002, 02:35 PM	#21
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	By MadDogMe "A block alone does not make or break a system 'regardless of pump and rad and tube', never has never will, that is my opinion" end quote Strongly vague opinion if you ask me. Regardless of pump, rad, tube. So given any combo of these, the waterblock cannot break the system? Go get yourself the BlueCooling's BTMS block and live with it And the reverse is true also, take an open design 1/2" swiftech and choke it off with 1/4" tubing and a grab bag of 90 degree elbows, throw in a tiny rad with 1/4" barbs and a little 12volt 1/2lpm squirt pistol of a pump, that will most surely effect the system. Now just because you can screw up more drastically with the combination of all the other parts in the loop does not mean that a block is insigificant in the equation. by bigben2k "The thinner the base plate, the more heat is available to be taken away, but if the flow rate isn't high enough, then the heat just sits there, and performance suffers" end quote Technically I don't follow the first part. Increasing surface area makes more heat available to the coolant and the heat transfer rate (by velocity and properties of coolant) determines how much is stored up in the bp, higher velocity means higher transfer rate and lower block temp which results in lower die temp. Thinner bp means less stored heat energy to begin with. The second part yes, higher flow rate brings higher coolant velocity. I think what Cathar is trying to point out, is that he is using a restriction as a nozzle directly over strategic areas in his block. This lowers the overall flow of the loop but increases heat transfer because of the extreme velocity directed at various points of heat transfer, for a beneficial tradeoff. He is not using a restrictive barb nor do I. I in fact do use a 5/8" OD barb as the inlet on my design. The inner geometry of my block creates a velocity change throughout the short flow paths of the block and directly over the center of the core but also does not sacrifice as much overall flow volume. Both are radically different than what is available in the various mazes and open designs for an improvement,in my opinion Edit: Observation, Did the other "ultimate" thread max out or something?:shrug: