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Originally posted by bigben2k
it's as slick as anything else.
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Come on... when a boeing "slides" onto the ground you can see trails, and burnt grass due to the reactors hanging under the wings... This one didnt even touch the ground, or else the pentagon had "superlawn", which absorbs crash & fire damage... (oh and the boeing is super resistant, it didnt even lose a piece while "sliding")
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if one takes into account the angle of entry, and the angle throughout the entire time frame that the plane entered the building, while remembering what the integrity of the structure was like. We're talking about yaw, pitch and roll angles.
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Yes. It has all been said in the "official version". Now take a look at the "3D test" site... see how big a 757 is, thats 38m wingspan. The damage on the 1st floor is about 20m large.... No need to remember, look at military (hi-res !) pictures.
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BTW, stall speed is around 140 knots, but that doesn't mean that the plane was going at least that fast.
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Keep in mind a terrorist made this. They dont usually minimize damage by throttling down, like "Oh, i wont hurt those people too much, lets brake a bit"...
Besides if it was slow, how come it "disintegrated" then ?
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The WTC was in just about the most public place on earth, so I don't see why the lack of witnesses of the Pentagon incident is relevant.
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Yeah, AFTER the crash. But why BEFORE and DURING the crash, absolutely NO ONE saw any 757 ? Thats weird, i thought Washington was quite a big town...
Instead we have witness who heard a "weird noise" and saw a "small plane"...
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As for the aircraft parts, depending on the speed of impact, they probably disintegrated.
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Thats the "official version" dude. Please explain me how about 80t of aluminium and steel "disintegrated", without laughing. And this, after passing through a 2.4m wide hole on the 1st floor, without touching the edges, or even blowing *out* the building it was inside of... (one can still see windows in place at 2nd floor)
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Whatever was left probably melted, just like the WTC structural steel did. A plane incidentally, is mostly made of tin and aluminium. Steel is extremely rarely used.
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Alu indeed. But please consider that were 757's in the WTC and Pennsylvania as well, and one could find parts littered all around... Especially the tail, which *always* survives crashes... Some parts are reinforced (wingtips, tail etc).
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The pentagon was fixed in a record amount of time. Considering the work involved in clearing the debris alone, it's quite a formidable accomplishment. They did work 24hr per day though (don't see that too often nowadays!).
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Of course. Considering the military nature of the place, no wonder they cleaned it up rather quickly. But in less than 30mn ? Putting back a golf-ready lawn in the mean time ?
However, the problem is: there's a 2.5m hole for a ~3.7m airframe (look at the first photos). The 1st floor shows damage extending about 20m around, for a 38m wingspan... And even more shocking, the tail is about 3 stories high, and one can see the 2nd floor is "intact" just after the explosion (before the building collapsed...). How did it enter ? If it didnt where is it.....
The missile theory doesnt hold since there are cut poles. This is indeed a winged aircraft, but it was quite smaller than a 757...