Great questions guys.. please PM me for other questions: reasons at bottom of page.
BigBen2k and wymjym-
Let me share my thought process. Correct me where wrong
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Companies must register in any state the do business or operate out of. If Bluecooling was doing business as a DBA (doing business as) or incorporating, then the records will show that they were registered or have EVER been. You cant sell before registering under BCooling, so proving that they were never or aren't registered is quite easy and does prove alot. This is not even remotely the same thing as a $30 domain the web.
You are right that it would be very easy to prove that they did do business as the IRS and state tax offices would have to be the first to be contacted. A DBA is a legal entitiy status that says that no one else can use that name for business if it is registered. They must be registered to be legal if it is not a self named entity.
I want to be fair about this.. so I asked Kyle in plenty of time to back up that he could indeed show me proof that they did business. Kyle had every opportunity to argue the facts that I found and presented back to him. He didn't prove what he said he could when asked. What other opinion could anyone hold if they were being objective?
I think IF everyone asking questions right now was fair themsleves, they would notice that any proof a sale would be the easiest thing to prove. I wanted a reciept, or credit card statement, or ANY unit that was sold. Kyle said he could easily "prove it" and was very forthcoming with information until I asked him this one question. He didn't, and I belive he will not be to prove it in light of what I have found. He still won't respond to my inquirys. Why stop there if its "easy"?. IF we want to be objective.. no proof doesn't hold water to given proof. Even "paypal" proof. I don't feel that I am being biased or unfair considering the information given to ME by Kyle and George. Is this not the same information that anyone can look up themselves, or ask for like I did?
Yes.. they have a bad rap before even opening their doors. It was their fault, BC should not have sent anything to [H] when they don't appear to be objective (non money motivated, IMO). And yes that first review unit appeared to be a piece of crap per what I saw from a tester that I no longer trust.
Corva,
I want to be first to say that Kyle is a cool guy for talking with me and appears to be a gentleman. You and I have the same opinion in that area. The only thing that I disagree with him is the second article, based on what I have proof that he knew at THAT time. I have issues with the WB roundup and events happening after July 23rd on until the WB roundup articles release.
As to what proof is to be found statement.. you lost me.. no idea as to what proof you recieved from Kyle that shows he didn't use the wrong setup or used bad testing procedures, or know about the presidents email that it was a prototype on the 2nd article.. please read my post carefully. It is my belief that even a couple of beers cant possible hide these issues
. You can still see from his own words and BC that it was not designed to be used w/out a TEC and its still there.. on both sites companies webs, what am I missing? Is the BTMS a waterblock??? no.. Kyle states it himself in the first review. Why was it used? Did none of the questions I brought up raise a single doubt? Not all of them were based on correspondance, but on the stated from what is still posted. But I do thank you for reading the article and respect your opinion that you believe otherwise. The members have been very nice and as expected analytical.
Request for help: If this unit was sold, then SOMEONE would have to buy it. SOMEONE would speak about it on some forums somewhere. SOMEONE would have proof of purchase. If everthing is legit, then there should be at least 1 public mention of Bluecooling or BTMS before Kyles article SOMEWHERE on the internet, and this would support Kyles claim that this was a "for sale unit". Can anyone agree as to this? I have found zero information before Kyles post and continue to look.
My research hasn't stopped. IF this is the question in everyone's mind, then please help me out. Surely someone can make a point contrary to my postings with proof and extend the same effort. That, I believe is fair. After all, before I posted anything I had gone to the source. It is requested that others do the same. I make this challenge because they can tell you the same things they told me. Im not scared of cross examination and hope other people are examining for themselves the facts that they believe are plausable.
I am not an employee or president or even the delivery boy for any of these companies. If you think otherwise.. you are intitled to. I don't know what proof there is that I could show you otherwise besides the fact that they aren't a formed company yet (which is pretty convincing). If none of these "proved" topics that are using email to validate themselves dont ring true with you, please feel free to investigate the points that pull data from the still posted webs. I don't care if anyone calls me a liar as to who I am or my sources. Only ESP or conjecture is arguing with me. Look it up yourselves or just ignore the info you don't think checks out and look at what you can. I don't believe most data on the web, thats why I investigated this in the first place. Holding me in a different regard is not expected.
Please PM me if you would like to banter. I do not know if this topic is popular due to the professional image the Procooling staff is attempting to hold toward [H]. I admire their stance, and respect them for keeping "what one guy believes he has on email" in cautious regard. I have only been impressed by the responses and observations. So I wish to respectfully make no other comments on this thread, but choose to take it to the emails.