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Unread 01-28-2003, 08:54 AM   #22
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Originally posted by gmat
You couldnt be further from the truth. I have no church, i just choose the HW that i find the most suitable for the moment. I am no AMD zealot, i had Intel CPUs before because they were the best (C300a kicked some ass), i had a 3DFX then a TNT, i'm ready to move to ATI if they produce a driver that *does not* kill picture quality to get better benchmarks.. I don't care about NVidia and their strong-armed market tactics, nor about ATI and their crappy drivers.

Are you a [H] transfuge ? I think so.
Throw me the gauntlet i'll react. Beware, i love flamewars.


You don't seem to know what a driver is about, or a test sample, or even building a product such as a GFX card. Actually it's much more than just [H]ype and 3Dmarks on an OC'ed test sample. But it seems you know better...

BB2K & jroutma: i totally agree. I just hope the pricing policy is in tune with the competition. I won't shell out $500 for the 'ultra' version when the 9700 pro is at $400 (those are EU prices btw).
The smart thing would be to drop prices on Ti4600's -> say, $200 and it would be a killer.
Just watch anandtechs and hardocp:s review and you'll see which card has the best image quality, and the drivers are actually very good, i havent had any problem with my card. And most reviewsites think the drivers are very good.

I dont want to turn this into a flamewar cuz it would spoil the thread.

I know enough to realize that nvidia has had many months to optimize their drivers while waiting for 0.13micron and DDR2, ofcourse they will be able to squeese more out of the card, no doubt about it but i also think ATI har more to get from r300. The GFFX will probably not overclock very well later on either since it isnt built using FC-BGA and already pushing out 75W. Have u seen the videos and heard the noiselevel the card has? It takes a lot of cooling just to keep the chip at standard clock. 3dmark doesnt mean anything IMHO, run reallife games to find out the performance, i strongly object towards using syntetic benchmarks.

Sure its a test sample but do u think they will make it much different? GF4:s test samples looks exactly like retail products. The only thing i think they can do to increase overclockabililty is if they would get better yields in the manufacturing, maybe finetune something in the core somewhere, guess we will have to see. I dont remember the earlier cards but i have a strong feeling that they didnt change the design very much.

Im sorry if i offended u in any way, i have a tendancy to go rather hard on with my comments sometimes, peace out!
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