this totally kicks ass. i've never actually used my klipsch 450w 4.1's the way they were intended... in surround. never figured out where to put them. so, the other day i said screw it, bought some hooks and string, strung them up upside-down in my ceiling behind me. it's great. i wish i had pictures. even a string tied between them to keep them pointed in the right direction. i kick ass. ghetto down!