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TerraMex · 02-11-2003, 04:53 AM

Given the information available, you can make a few assumptions.

I've been told that the "good" factory (Dresden) is fully occupied with the Hammer , and its set on hold because microsoft is far from having its 64bit OS out... so having a 64bit processor it's a waste of money by todays standards. In the best case scenario, a low version of the hammer would come out. I dont really think so.

Having known that, it's a good assumption to say that the other factorys arent really cutting it.

It's obvious that they are having problems with the manufacture of the AmdXP Tbred B 2800+ and up, and it shows. You dont see them around much, the 2800+ are rare, very. The Barton, being a slightly modified Tbred B with that extra cache... is probably having the same problems. A 2800+ goes at 2.25, and the barton isnt. Its clocked at 2.167 wich is probably the best they could get out of that . Else, it would have a higher clock, 2.25 by my guess. They're out with this clock because there was a time factor.

In a few weeks, or a couple of month's, 3100+ or 3200+, 2.25Ghz or more, but i think this is only to maintain Amd in the race until the Hammer/A64 comes out... It wont be that "super duper" processor everyone expected, besides, most people dont actually buy top processors. Most of them want a working, cheap machine that can play a few games (like the Sims

, office and internet. That's your average computer Joe (no offence Joe). The power user market is smaller one. Not everyone has a gf4ti4600 or a 9700pro with a 2400+ and a gazillion Gb hdd space. Not even close. Only the enthusiasts have some notion of whats going on, and who's doing what to who and why we werent invited.

Another point is, like Pritorian said... you're still making a comparison with a p4 that has 33% more clock speed, ss2 and hyperthreading. So ... a amd that goes head to head with that... its pretty good in my book. No looser there.

In the bottom line , price will win the game. Dunno about prices yet, but if it's cheaper than a p4 3.06 or a 3.2 , then we just might have a winner.

02-11-2003, 04:53 AM	#18
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	my 5 mhz. Given the information available, you can make a few assumptions. I've been told that the "good" factory (Dresden) is fully occupied with the Hammer , and its set on hold because microsoft is far from having its 64bit OS out... so having a 64bit processor it's a waste of money by todays standards. In the best case scenario, a low version of the hammer would come out. I dont really think so. Having known that, it's a good assumption to say that the other factorys arent really cutting it. It's obvious that they are having problems with the manufacture of the AmdXP Tbred B 2800+ and up, and it shows. You dont see them around much, the 2800+ are rare, very. The Barton, being a slightly modified Tbred B with that extra cache... is probably having the same problems. A 2800+ goes at 2.25, and the barton isnt. Its clocked at 2.167 wich is probably the best they could get out of that . Else, it would have a higher clock, 2.25 by my guess. They're out with this clock because there was a time factor. In a few weeks, or a couple of month's, 3100+ or 3200+, 2.25Ghz or more, but i think this is only to maintain Amd in the race until the Hammer/A64 comes out... It wont be that "super duper" processor everyone expected, besides, most people dont actually buy top processors. Most of them want a working, cheap machine that can play a few games (like the Sims , office and internet. That's your average computer Joe (no offence Joe). The power user market is smaller one. Not everyone has a gf4ti4600 or a 9700pro with a 2400+ and a gazillion Gb hdd space. Not even close. Only the enthusiasts have some notion of whats going on, and who's doing what to who and why we werent invited. Another point is, like Pritorian said... you're still making a comparison with a p4 that has 33% more clock speed, ss2 and hyperthreading. So ... a amd that goes head to head with that... its pretty good in my book. No looser there. In the bottom line , price will win the game. Dunno about prices yet, but if it's cheaper than a p4 3.06 or a 3.2 , then we just might have a winner. __________________ "we need more cowbell."