For Joe:
Ahhh... Its like a breath of fresh spring air to hear a manufacturer 'fess up to the inadequacies of their product.
However I've had conversations with Gabe Rouchon and can assure you that he does not consider Swiftech's products to be inferior. So I thought I would discuss this with him and opened this thread to be able to quote you accurately.
Fortunately, because I saw your retraction before I repeated some trashy, unattributed nonsense.
You shot from the hip again Joe, and missed, again.
I asked you for data, and this was your response:
"Funny enough the data I got was FROM swiftec stating that currently Chips blocks will surpass theirs, but in the future they think that will change.
Swiftec thinks the volume of coolant you keep in a cpu cooler affects cooling more then its movement over a surface."
"But Swift was the one who said that their current generation of blocks are behind chips design, and their new one will be up to OCWC's cooling specs."
You are confused Joe, that's not data, that's a (now secondhand) opinion. So not having any data, you based your OPINION on ....
But no facts.
The "flaws in it on how the coolant flows", remember that until you have facts (numbers) its only a (not very well informed) opinion.
Yes, I too know Chip Eckert and I consider him to be one of the more clever designers in the watercooling "business". (In fact I have a small project going with him now that you are probably even aware of.)
Here are some recent thermal test results
http://www.hwlabs.com/products and I trust you can see the difficulties in drawing absolute (or even firm) conclusions.
I look forward to your test (results), and trust you will tell us how the experiment was designed, steps taken to limit and control variables, and how the data was analyzed to attribute cause and effect.
(I think that super-monster-muther-waterbox of yours will have more variables than 10 gorillas could get their arms around. Just my opinion, eh.)
Rigor Joe, testing requires rigor.
be cool