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i still dont understand why everyone thinks that the geforce fx is a flop. sure its not way faster than the radeon 9700 pro, but it is faster. and it does actually perform better than the 9700 pro on 3dmark2003, just not by a lot. and from what i have read, 3dmark2003 is somewhat different from real games. clearly, it would have been better if the geforce fx had been released earlier. the .15 => .13 micron switch was more dificult than anticipated. however, ati is going to have to make this switch sometime soon as well.

and the nforce2 chipset from nvidia is certainly the best if you have a amd cpu.

about amd, i think they are doing just fine. the jist of all of the reviews i have read on the xp 3000+ is that while it does not nuke intel, it does keep up. the fasterst bartons are about as fast as the fastest p4s, and the bartons cost like $200 less.