[airspirit]

TerraMex and Cybr: if you're humanitarians, then what about the starving people of Iraq? What about the tens of thousands imprisoned? What about the children that are tortured to get information from the parents? The chemical weapons use on his own people? Supporting that is now HUMANITARIAN?

Did I miss the crazy train here?

FACT: Saddam invaded his neighbor, prompting us to kick his ass.

FACT: To prevent us from fully conquering Iraq and removing him from power, Saddam agreed to disarm. This was 1991. Until he disarmed, sanctions would be imposed on him.

FACT: From 1991 until 1996, Saddam sidestepped imposed inspections, refused to disarm, and illegally sidestepped sanctions to channel money to himself and his military, similarly misallocating funds that were SUPPOSED to go to feed his people. People starved and died. Many other got murdered, gassed, tortured, raped, and generally mistreated.

FACT: In 1996, Saddam kicked out inspectors, guaranteeing that his people would starve, and giving us the right to take him out under the previous agreement.

FACT: We didn't, because Bill Clinton was a pussy.

FACT: He continued starving, killing, and raping his people until the present day, continuing to ignore his obligation to disarm.

FACT: He has admittedly channelled money to palestinian terror groups to KILL CIVILIANS.

FACT: Removing him from power would be A GOOD THING [tm] for the Iraqi people.

YOU CANNOT DISPUTE ANY OF THIS REGARDLESS OF HOW PSYCHOTICALLY LIBERAL YOU ARE.

If you oppose war, you are pro-Saddam. If you are pro-Saddam, you advocate murder, torture, rape, and starving children. You are quite lousy, for humanitarians.

As far as your history, Terra, it is completely fscked, and I don't know what perverted stuff they teach in Portugal, but it wasn't until after the bomb was used on Japan that they surrendered. I've heard that rumor spouted by the left wing, and it is completely false. It is like denying the holocaust.

Oh, and guerilla warfare != killing children. I'm sorry, but that is like saying that the 9-11 attack was guerilla warfare. What a load of shit. In history, the Arabs weren't there until the muslim empires of old chased the Jews out. The difference is that it was a little further back. They both have a historical claim to the land.

The difference is that while the Israelis have repeatedly offered terms to the PA, the PA will never quit until there is NO ISRAEL. There is no peace to be made there. The PA is a joke, and it just serves to channel money to terrorist organizations. Killing children must be humanitarian too, huh?

It is rare I get riled up like this, but this liberal bullshit makes me sick. Start reading history: and not history off your favorite radical left wing web site. Start looking past the superficial Wouldn't It Be Nice [tm] crap and look into the meat of issues, and you'll see that there are times that call for action.

If you consider yourself humanitarians, wouldn't it be wonderful if the US went to each oppressive regime in line and straightened them all out? Wouldn't it? Well I'm sorry, but we don't have the resources. If you advocate fixing Africa or some such, then you fix it. We're too busy sending them drugs so they can survive a little longer and shoring up the economies of most of their nations. Fscking hypocrits. You talk about N. Korea ... we've had around 30-60K soldiers on the border for years preventing genocide. Do you care? ... Or does that not fit in your perverted world image? The only reason you're in a free nation is because of our dead bodies on European beaches, but you don't care. You don't care that we kept the Soviets from turning your country into another SSR ....

Tell me, what in the bleeding fsck are we supposed to do except ignore all your pissing and bitching? The UN is a crock of shit. NATO is outdated. Those operations were normally just the US and a few token brigades from other nations anyway. You guys are the most ungrateful people I've ever met.

I'm done now. I'm sick and tired of dealing with people who refuse to open their eyes. I need a frickin' beer.