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Originally posted by gmat
In short:
- Some americans here (and g.l.amour, for some unknown reason, must be Belgian beer, strong stuff) believe that the rest of the world think all Americans are Evil
- Other people here try to explain how the U.S. foreign policy could be seen as 'aggressive' by the rest of the world, and how some people around the world could feel oppressed by the "we own the world" US policy.
- There have been some arguments over written (and recorded) History, mainly over the nuking of Japan
- Also there was an argument over whether it was 'right' to bomb the Irak or not.
- US conservatists believe it's 'right' because Saddam will conquer Middle East, Europe and then nuke out the USA. Or support Al Qaida and blow up the White House. Or anything Evil.
- Other think it's 'wrong' because Saddam is a loser and circled by far more powerful countries which all hate him.
- Since it's a war on oil, some ppl proposed replacements for this energy, and talked about the state of the art and what's to come, hopefully for a better world


Oh, and the Ati 9800 (pro and not-pro) is out... (was the initial topic)

thanks for the synopsis! sounds like about every war argument i've been hearing lately. you can't change the oil people. they're silly. really. we're already capitalizing on that oil, why invade?

i'm seriously getting tired of these arguments. i'm on another board and that's all they talk about (not computers, i'm true to procooling ). it's silly. the anti-war people are incorrigable. all i have to say is to quote an nice little letter.

"Ok let's just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid, unrealistic children had your way and the U.S.A. didn't go into Iraq. Let's say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what we've done for world peace.

Let's say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the National Guard on hand to help out with floods and fires. Let's say that we close down our military bases all over the world and bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade sanctions against everybody. I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world where everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the United States of America, the cause of all the world's trouble would have disbanded it's horrible military and certainly all the other countries of the world would follow suit. After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the mean old U.S.A.

Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps. get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning. Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?

Barbara Streisand's fanatical and hateful rankings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing. You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into the real world. You'd be surprised at the hostility you would find out here. Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long distance truck driver that you don't think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong. Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the United States has no right to defend itself. Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an anti-war rally and see what the folks down there think about you.

You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about. Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little, "fact finding trip" to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war. You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of choice you say? Well I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.

You scoff at our military who's boots you're not even worthy to shine. They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in luxury. The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.
America is in imminent danger.
You're either for her or against her.
There is no middle ground.
I think we all know where you stand.
What do you think?
God Bless America"


~ Charlie Daniels, originally titled "An Open Letter To The Hollywood Bunch"