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Unread 03-16-2003, 07:59 AM   #122
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Originally posted by Blackeagle
Polls...
It's not polls.
It's 3 million people on the streets of each main European country. (apart from France where the opposition to war is the least important... go figure).
So many people on the streets didnt happen since a *long* time. When you're having a reaction of that scale, no poll is needed. Something's wrong.
Also when members of your *own* political party want to kick you out... something's very wrong.

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Originally posted by Blackeagle

you tell yourself that the people of the US are aginst Bush, remember, it's a lie.
I don't tell myself. I watch the news, read the newsparers, cross check the info before posting something. While the USA is the only country where a majority of people are pro-war *with the backing of the UN*, this majority crumbles when it comes to giving the finger to the UN and to the rest of the world.


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Originally posted by Blackeagle

You need to do some checking into just who has paid by far more than any other nation. The US. Not as much as the UN would like? Tough. Let each pay a equal amount of the cost, as they have a equal voice. And as to the idea of the richest pay most, that is a good socialist point of view, does not equate to fair.
First - a few time ago the problem was the US *not paying at all*. I don't call that "more than any other nation"...
Second - your idea of a membership fee to the UN is plain wrong. That would exclude nearly every other country from the UN, apart from the 5 richest. The problem is, they represent a tiny minority of the worlds population. Of course according to you, the USA should be the only member of the UN...
The only way is a proportional fee and you know it well. You cannot ask the sum paid by Russia or USA, to an african country...

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Originally posted by Blackeagle

And you are dead wrong on the veto issure, just look at how the French are using theirs right now. If you read up on that you'll find a number of other countrys also have that power.
Whoops you misunderstood me. That's EXACTLY what i was saying. So the French (and the Russian btw) are using their veto. What's wrong ?
The US used it more often than anyone else and no one started a war over it or backed ones membership from the UN...
And now the French and the Russian shouldn't have the right to oppose their veto ? Come on.


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Originally posted by Blackeagle

Nothing for this country.
I'm not sure you understand what the UN is about. It's not here to serve the interests of the USA, or anyone for that matter. It's here to solve problems in the world, and preserve peace (that's a short statement, i don't have time to put down the whole thing).
Anyway, what Terramex said. It's not the pet dog of the USA. The USA should be a citizen of the world, not a spoiled bully kid.

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Originally posted by Blackeagle

4) They have only in the last 10 days or so started disclosing and destroying the long range missles they were to have gotten rid of long ago.
180 km. They're going to wipe the USA with that. Ooohhh i think i'm gonna buy a gas mask. And his wooden scout drone... Mmmhh i surrender. Don't shoot please mr Saddam.
Seriously. Don't you remember the *last* time Saddam had weapons menacing a nearby country ? Don't you remember the immediate reaction ? Don't you think that Iran intelligence and the Mossad know every square inch of Iraqi desert ? Why didn't they react this time around ? They're morons ? They surrendered ? they're blind maybe ? After all they're the first ones concerned by this affair.

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Originally posted by Blackeagle

you havn't proved it well enough.
the problem is, there's no proof *at all*. it's not a matter of 'not well enough' in which case a doubt would subsist, and for sure other countries would follow. But there, we have *nothing*. Like in "nada", "nitch", "zero". Even the CIA and MI6 (people we're not used to hear usually) spoke up and said they had absolutely no evidence.
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