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Blackeagle · 03-16-2003, 05:32 PM

BigBen,

I was rather shocked to hear your thoughts on Cuba. Have to say I disagree with you on that one.

Gmat,

My referance to polls was in regards to how they are manipulated in this country, not judging anything anywhere else in that statement. And I would not try to determine the value of polls taken in any other country where I don't have direct knowlage of how they are taken and any biases proven/shown. As to the marches you mention I have seen some of that on the news. Would tend to agree with your statement regarding peoples feelings on the issue there. You're there I'm not, as well as what I've seen in reports on the news here regarding Europe's peoples in this matter. While I do not agree with them, I do see that they are strongly motivated aginst war on Iraqi.

But in regarding the polls and the results shown both here and abroad based on "facts gained from highly biased sources they are misleading at best. It does disgust me that this goes on in my nation, but that is the truth of the matter.

Regarding the Iraqi leadership (Aziz) showing strong respect for a leader of a faith other than muslim, that does not surprise me at all. The Koran recognizes both jews and christians as "people of the book". Thus it is right and proper to show respect to leaders of those faiths according to the Koran. The Koran sees these faiths and their prophets as preludes to the coming of Mohamad. Christ is recognized as a leader and a prophet, but not as more than that, prior to the coming of the prophet Mohammad who is the leader of their faith. Although that has changed a lot in practice.

Saddam is not only a member of the baath party, but it's head. And Saddam does as nOv1c3 posted see himself as a sort of savior of the faithfull of islam.

nOv1c3,

Good post. I agree with it all. And I think those fortelling how our forces will suffer large losses need to remember how those same forcasts last time ended in the most lopsided loss ratio in history, in our favor, not Iraqs. May not be as lopsided as last time if the fighting goes into urban areas, but the Iraqi armed forces won't last long.

Then the rather harder part will start. Helping the Iraqi people set up a new and better goverment.

03-16-2003, 05:32 PM	#129
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	BigBen, I was rather shocked to hear your thoughts on Cuba. Have to say I disagree with you on that one. Gmat, My referance to polls was in regards to how they are manipulated in this country, not judging anything anywhere else in that statement. And I would not try to determine the value of polls taken in any other country where I don't have direct knowlage of how they are taken and any biases proven/shown. As to the marches you mention I have seen some of that on the news. Would tend to agree with your statement regarding peoples feelings on the issue there. You're there I'm not, as well as what I've seen in reports on the news here regarding Europe's peoples in this matter. While I do not agree with them, I do see that they are strongly motivated aginst war on Iraqi. But in regarding the polls and the results shown both here and abroad based on "facts gained from highly biased sources they are misleading at best. It does disgust me that this goes on in my nation, but that is the truth of the matter. Regarding the Iraqi leadership (Aziz) showing strong respect for a leader of a faith other than muslim, that does not surprise me at all. The Koran recognizes both jews and christians as "people of the book". Thus it is right and proper to show respect to leaders of those faiths according to the Koran. The Koran sees these faiths and their prophets as preludes to the coming of Mohamad. Christ is recognized as a leader and a prophet, but not as more than that, prior to the coming of the prophet Mohammad who is the leader of their faith. Although that has changed a lot in practice. Saddam is not only a member of the baath party, but it's head. And Saddam does as nOv1c3 posted see himself as a sort of savior of the faithfull of islam. nOv1c3, Good post. I agree with it all. And I think those fortelling how our forces will suffer large losses need to remember how those same forcasts last time ended in the most lopsided loss ratio in history, in our favor, not Iraqs. May not be as lopsided as last time if the fighting goes into urban areas, but the Iraqi armed forces won't last long. Then the rather harder part will start. Helping the Iraqi people set up a new and better goverment.