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Originally posted by winewood
It is a well documented fact that all materials and parts for Saddams airforce come from France.
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The core ones, dating from the 80's. After the first Gulf War, everything was frozen. Saddam had to equip with 2nd hand ex-USSR hardware (even for the 1st Gulf War btw). THAT is a well known fact as well, and more acurate to today's situation.
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Originally posted by winewood
NOT to speak of the 30 billion in oil contracts pending with France as soon as sanctions are lifted. Who do those contracts exist with? ... NOW who is the humanitarian here?
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Not the US. You totally forgot to mention a program called "Food versus Oil" installed by the UN (no less) to lighten the effects of the blockade on populations.
Russia and France contributed to that program, and Oil companies were complying to UN resolutions and to the blockade rules.
Your implying that France supports Saddam is plainly ludicrous. And implying that Russia does the same would be just as wrong. Again, tell me, what did Chirac said about Saddam ? Did you hear what he said ?
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Originally posted by winewood
If you think this is about oil, you are right. (...) That isn't conquest or colonization. Its called freedom.
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YOUR freedom stops where your neighbours freedom starts. That's a basic principle. If a country attacks another *without* the consent of worlds authorities (ie the UN), that's called a crime.
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The best gauge for future action is the past. Who rules Afghanistan? Their people. Who rules Kuwait? Their people.
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Afghanistan. The situation there is dire, to say the least. The US only went there after LONG years of Taliban occupation, because those Talibans asked for a tax on a huge pipeline crossing the north of the country. Besides it's the US who gave a nod to Talibans in the first place, when they were installed there by the Pakistan, a good US ally.
Kuwait is basically an US colony. Nothing more.
PS Gungrefjaert: We may not know much. But do you think that Poutine (or Russian intel), or the Mossad (Israeli intel) know nothing ?