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Originally posted by winewood
The UN isn't a democracy. Let be back that up. A democracy is an entity where free people are able to guide the paths of governement of a governing body by mandate of majority decision.
The UN is staffed by beurocrats. Beurocrats are not elected
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From the start you're wrong. UN representatives are members of each country's governement. Which was elected by its people. The UN doesn't work different than a parliament. And a parliament is what makes a democracy work.
Saying otherwise shows your will to despise the UN and put it at a lower level than the oh-so-grand-and-magnificent-US governement.
What's next ?
Claiming the US govermenent made a mistake will be considered as treason ? Terrorrism ?
This kind of reasoning is the grounds of facism.
Ah and Britain representatives *were* elected to represent the people. That explains the *slight* resentment towards them right now...
Where did I say 'the UN is not a governement" ??? I said "the UN is not a *country*" to support the fact that UN has no self resources, but rather those of supporting countries.
" If they voted for genocide of South Africa" -> what the hell. UN representatives aren't criminals. If they were France and and USA wouldn't even bother with the UN to begin with.
"you cannot talk someone into submission" -> But it's not about taking people into submission (like you seem to imply with the US over Europe btw) !!!! The USA choosed to be a member of the UN and by such to comply to its resolutions. All member countries did. Nobody forced them to do so.
There's something called "Worlds peace", and also "right of peoples". You seem to piss on that principles. Too bad.
Also, you don't want to admit that the US governement made a mistake. So if i follow your reasoning that makes the US a parody of democracy. And so forth for the UK and Spain...
"US force is not at the worlds total disposal to deal with any conflict they see fit. " -> Hey the same goes with countries towards the USA.... But from your previous posts you seem to imply the contrary
"Expect the US to do it on behalf of the UN with US tax dollars to fund the bill?" Generally member countries all contribute. The 1st gulf war was nearly entirely paid by coalition members.
"Its comical that you think the US is here to serve the UN in that capacity." -> It is not comical you think any country is here to serve the US in any capacity.
"If you think you can control what I think or state as an opinion" -> It's not controlling opinions. It's a public forum here. You're allowed a lot of things, but NOT directly insulting people or their family. That's a basic rule you did not follow.
"His opinion on twisting words" -> Twisting words ? I copy pasted your statement.
Finally: the UN is not the pet dog of the US. Nobody is, even the UK (or its people for instance). And you live on a limited planet. With nations. Which you should respect instead of putting down like "socialist countries" or "inferior race" as i begin to understand from your comments.
(PS) ah Bill didn't see your comments. Democracy has its flaws. But one must live with them, or endure another regime... It's the 'less worst' of the lot. That's why France, the USA, all EU nations, etc choosed Democracy.