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TerraMex · 03-20-2003, 08:43 PM

>Don't go after Israel on human rights records, or you
>show ignorance

But i do, it is plain to see . Israel has an army, the palestinians dont. If they did, rest assure you'd know about it.

And I assume you think they're terrorists? How do think an occupied people, who's randomly arrested, and shot and bombed should do? Sit on their asses? No, they do what they can, and thats guerrilla warfare. Oh please, lets take that guerrilla warfare into the middle of the desert, just to be nice. Not going to happen. Its done where both live, and die for that matter. Of course the Israelits then try to capture any palestinian combatent, no wonder.

Discussion of methods of operation only is relevant when you understand what's at stake. And never by the standard "right and wrong", they dont apply.

The Israelits want to stop the attacks, by attacking. In the mean time , they want to expand their borders.

The Palestinians dont want to give them any more terrain, and keep getting shot for it. And retaliate in suicidal attacks.

Redo from start.

> It is very difficult to do.

Might be, but many israelits feel the palestinians should be all thrown out (or killed). And so does the palestinians. A whole generation grew with this hate wich wont dissipate for quite a while.

>I don't blame Israel from trying to protect itself, and I
>don't blame the Palestinians from wanting a state of
>their own.

Exactly. Thank you.

>The mindless killing that is most often
>spurred by palestinian terrorist activity in order to
>further their cause.

You forget, the palestinians cant go directly agains the israely miliary. They do what they can. And alot is that "mindless killing". Its not mindless, its planned to get a desired effect. Sometimes to media, sometimes internally.

>Don't blame the Israelis for that violence down there.

But i do, alot really. They invaded the Palestine, they forced , killed and took over the palestinians homes. No wonder the palestinians hate them so much. They are the "invaders", and true enough to an good extent.

>If I was running that show, I'd kick every one of their
>asses out of Israel and set my military on the border to
>keep them out

The borders keep growing in favour of Israel. Alot what stopped thanks to the media, the "terrorist" attacks, and a big effort by the UN. If it was 80 years ago, you bet they would have killed every palestinian they could find. Nowadays its "uncivilized" to whipe out a people.

>Blowing up civilian targets with the intent of killing as
>many civilians as possible and inflicting terror upon a
>population IS terrorism, whatever your take on the
>Israeli situation is.

Thank you again. The Israelits did/do that so many times.

> information proving that Iraqis sponsor terrorism:

Even Tony Blair address the people and apologized for the mixup with those fake papers publicly.

03-20-2003, 08:43 PM	#62
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	>Don't go after Israel on human rights records, or you >show ignorance But i do, it is plain to see . Israel has an army, the palestinians dont. If they did, rest assure you'd know about it. And I assume you think they're terrorists? How do think an occupied people, who's randomly arrested, and shot and bombed should do? Sit on their asses? No, they do what they can, and thats guerrilla warfare. Oh please, lets take that guerrilla warfare into the middle of the desert, just to be nice. Not going to happen. Its done where both live, and die for that matter. Of course the Israelits then try to capture any palestinian combatent, no wonder. Discussion of methods of operation only is relevant when you understand what's at stake. And never by the standard "right and wrong", they dont apply. The Israelits want to stop the attacks, by attacking. In the mean time , they want to expand their borders. The Palestinians dont want to give them any more terrain, and keep getting shot for it. And retaliate in suicidal attacks. Redo from start. > It is very difficult to do. Might be, but many israelits feel the palestinians should be all thrown out (or killed). And so does the palestinians. A whole generation grew with this hate wich wont dissipate for quite a while. >I don't blame Israel from trying to protect itself, and I >don't blame the Palestinians from wanting a state of >their own. Exactly. Thank you. >The mindless killing that is most often >spurred by palestinian terrorist activity in order to >further their cause. You forget, the palestinians cant go directly agains the israely miliary. They do what they can. And alot is that "mindless killing". Its not mindless, its planned to get a desired effect. Sometimes to media, sometimes internally. >Don't blame the Israelis for that violence down there. But i do, alot really. They invaded the Palestine, they forced , killed and took over the palestinians homes. No wonder the palestinians hate them so much. They are the "invaders", and true enough to an good extent. >If I was running that show, I'd kick every one of their >asses out of Israel and set my military on the border to >keep them out The borders keep growing in favour of Israel. Alot what stopped thanks to the media, the "terrorist" attacks, and a big effort by the UN. If it was 80 years ago, you bet they would have killed every palestinian they could find. Nowadays its "uncivilized" to whipe out a people. >Blowing up civilian targets with the intent of killing as >many civilians as possible and inflicting terror upon a >population IS terrorism, whatever your take on the >Israeli situation is. Thank you again. The Israelits did/do that so many times. > information proving that Iraqis sponsor terrorism: Even Tony Blair address the people and apologized for the mixup with those fake papers publicly. __________________ "we need more cowbell."