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ck42 · 01-22-2001, 01:47 PM

mfpmax:

You are right about the radiator/watercooled evolution. But if you looked at the big picture, it's still in its infancy compared to the time line that could be seen with HeatSink/Fans. HSF have been maxed out practically from what I can see. Not sure *how* else they can be improved in major ways...only little steps here and there. As far as radiators are concerned, there's really nothing scientific behind the current status. We've simply been using guess&test to find something better.

Joe:

I used to get into mental fist fights quite frequently because of my technical nature. I'd argure with the guys who just wanted something that works about how silly they were for buying something because it wasn't proven and what not....they drove me nuts

I've since learned to pick my fights because I've learned that there are apparently these two groups (if not more) of people.

1) The guys who want something that works.
2) The guys who want to prove the best product scientifically...then buy it.

The guys in group 1 gotta remember that its the guys in group 2 that bring on the new/better products eventually.

The guys in group 2 gotta remember that the group 1 guys don't want to be bored with the details and want to get their rigs RUNNING like yesterday! 'I don't care if I have to put a stuffed pig in my case if it means my cpu runs 6C cooler!'

Normally, I'd say it's bad to place people into categories like this but in certain cases it helps to keep the peace when we each know where the other guy is coming from.

So...BillA, remember, most of the group1 guys (not all) don't want to hear the boring details....some do. Group 1.5? Group2 guys gotta work dilegently behind the scenes and run test then introduce it.

Joe...remember, we need the boring geeks (myself included here) to figure out how to improve this *stuff*. My guess is that maybe Bill is frustrated with the group1 guys and is venting. I'm definately guilty myself of started flame threads because of being irritated with the group1 guys. Oh, and another thing about group2 guys...we like formulas

We like to be able to figure something out by just plugging in the numbers....NOT buying something because 8 people in a thread did and said it 'rox0rs!!'

I swear I don't seem to be able to keep these things short....sorry.

01-22-2001, 01:47 PM	#16
ck42 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Atlanta Posts: 154	mfpmax: You are right about the radiator/watercooled evolution. But if you looked at the big picture, it's still in its infancy compared to the time line that could be seen with HeatSink/Fans. HSF have been maxed out practically from what I can see. Not sure how else they can be improved in major ways...only little steps here and there. As far as radiators are concerned, there's really nothing scientific behind the current status. We've simply been using guess&test to find something better. Joe: I used to get into mental fist fights quite frequently because of my technical nature. I'd argure with the guys who just wanted something that works about how silly they were for buying something because it wasn't proven and what not....they drove me nuts I've since learned to pick my fights because I've learned that there are apparently these two groups (if not more) of people. 1) The guys who want something that works. 2) The guys who want to prove the best product scientifically...then buy it. The guys in group 1 gotta remember that its the guys in group 2 that bring on the new/better products eventually. The guys in group 2 gotta remember that the group 1 guys don't want to be bored with the details and want to get their rigs RUNNING like yesterday! 'I don't care if I have to put a stuffed pig in my case if it means my cpu runs 6C cooler!' Normally, I'd say it's bad to place people into categories like this but in certain cases it helps to keep the peace when we each know where the other guy is coming from. So...BillA, remember, most of the group1 guys (not all) don't want to hear the boring details....some do. Group 1.5? Group2 guys gotta work dilegently behind the scenes and run test then introduce it. Joe...remember, we need the boring geeks (myself included here) to figure out how to improve this stuff. My guess is that maybe Bill is frustrated with the group1 guys and is venting. I'm definately guilty myself of started flame threads because of being irritated with the group1 guys. Oh, and another thing about group2 guys...we like formulas We like to be able to figure something out by just plugging in the numbers....NOT buying something because 8 people in a thread did and said it 'rox0rs!!' I swear I don't seem to be able to keep these things short....sorry.