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TerraMex · 03-23-2003, 12:05 AM

>"We're not animals, and we're not fatalists and we're
>not controlled by impulses"
>oh my, 3 assertions = 3 errors

Maybe i should have been more specific on that. I was trying to say that we are not irracional animals, mainly impulse driven . Sure you have primary impulses like eat, or sleep but you dont automaticaly jump on the first woman that gives you a hard-on. You restrain yourself, and your impulses from doing so. It's a direct control over them. Being racional gives us that type of control. Just because you dont like your neighbour doesnt mean you kill him on the spot. Even if you'd like to.

Those are the points i was trying to make, dont know if i'm getting them across..?

>we certainly ARE animals, I submit Africa as the
>example exemplar

I'm not reaching it.

>anyone not a fatalist is in denial - or immortal

Nope, just taking things a bit more lightly. Maybe a bit more cool headed, i think. Death doesnt scare me, or i think about it too often. I just live my life as i can. So i have to say, i'm not a fatalist.

> to what do you ascribe the success of television if not
>"controlled by impulses" ?

Not reaching either... can you elaborate on that?

> we continue to breed like stupid fu*king rabbits

Most of the population growth is not particulary on the "civilized" countrys. A grea deal is located in african countrys and asian countrys. Some European countrys even have stagnat growth , wich is no good. Having an aged population weights on the social services of the country and also on the working force.

I do agree there's a need for a plan to control the general populational growth, it's one of the world's biggest problems.

>gonna have to ACT

But i agree, action is necessary. However it doesnt mean it has to be "military" action or something of some sort. Just because there is a diplomatic, political or economical solution implemented (even if its longer, or seems ) doesnt mean it is not "acting". Again, I say it can be military action, but i feel it is a last resort only (as stated above). When its called for. Not before. The problem is to say "when".

03-23-2003, 12:05 AM	#51
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	Just two points, and neither with the topic. >"We're not animals, and we're not fatalists and we're >not controlled by impulses" >oh my, 3 assertions = 3 errors Maybe i should have been more specific on that. I was trying to say that we are not irracional animals, mainly impulse driven . Sure you have primary impulses like eat, or sleep but you dont automaticaly jump on the first woman that gives you a hard-on. You restrain yourself, and your impulses from doing so. It's a direct control over them. Being racional gives us that type of control. Just because you dont like your neighbour doesnt mean you kill him on the spot. Even if you'd like to. Those are the points i was trying to make, dont know if i'm getting them across..? >we certainly ARE animals, I submit Africa as the >example exemplar I'm not reaching it. >anyone not a fatalist is in denial - or immortal Nope, just taking things a bit more lightly. Maybe a bit more cool headed, i think. Death doesnt scare me, or i think about it too often. I just live my life as i can. So i have to say, i'm not a fatalist. > to what do you ascribe the success of television if not >"controlled by impulses" ? Not reaching either... can you elaborate on that? > we continue to breed like stupid fu*king rabbits Most of the population growth is not particulary on the "civilized" countrys. A grea deal is located in african countrys and asian countrys. Some European countrys even have stagnat growth , wich is no good. Having an aged population weights on the social services of the country and also on the working force. I do agree there's a need for a plan to control the general populational growth, it's one of the world's biggest problems. >gonna have to ACT But i agree, action is necessary. However it doesnt mean it has to be "military" action or something of some sort. Just because there is a diplomatic, political or economical solution implemented (even if its longer, or seems ) doesnt mean it is not "acting". Again, I say it can be military action, but i feel it is a last resort only (as stated above). When its called for. Not before. The problem is to say "when". __________________ "we need more cowbell."