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airspirit · 03-25-2003, 03:14 PM

Okay, first, I'd like to announce that Mandrake 9.1 (Bamboo) was just released. I'm going to try a fresh install of that before I try anything else.

Second, I'm not starting from a smashed up linux install when I have these issues. The thing that finally put me over the edge was when I reinstalled Mandrake 9 fresh last night and loaded it. It installed and loaded with no errors, except the nightmare trying to configure my ethernet port on my NForce2 board (I had to use an alternate version of the drivers because when I followed the instructions on the NVidia site TO THE LETTER, the rpm package would start going and then say that it terminated in a bad folder or some crap and then would barf). I finally got that working with an alternate install version, and then tried to install XPde.

Here is what I did:

I logged in as root into KDE. In my home directory, I had the tar.gz file, so, following instructions, I ran tar #### [filename] and it decompressed except that it said that there was an unexpected end of file or some nonsense. The decompressed files in the new directory matched the internal contents of the tar file perfectly (I snooped it in Konqueror), so I ran ./install.sh and it got most of the way through and started spitting errors like CRAZY.

The crossover example: I would install the software, and then it would just FREEZE when trying to configure it, and the only way to close it would be to manually restart the machine (causing massive amounts of errors).

Mind you, these were fresh installs. As a user, I want things to work as expected when I run them, not have to debug something for a week before I can even get it installed! Mozilla installed easily, and that was about it ... nothing else I have EVER come across has worked as advertised, even when I follow their walkthroughs to the LETTER.

It could just be that Mandrake sucks ... I dunno. I'm going to give the new version a try and see what happens ... I'll prolly try Red Hat after that, and then whatever else you guys recommend after that. I just don't see how the slashdot crowd expects us all to switch to Linux when it is a nightmare to use even for an educated user.

03-25-2003, 03:14 PM	#8
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Okay, first, I'd like to announce that Mandrake 9.1 (Bamboo) was just released. I'm going to try a fresh install of that before I try anything else. Second, I'm not starting from a smashed up linux install when I have these issues. The thing that finally put me over the edge was when I reinstalled Mandrake 9 fresh last night and loaded it. It installed and loaded with no errors, except the nightmare trying to configure my ethernet port on my NForce2 board (I had to use an alternate version of the drivers because when I followed the instructions on the NVidia site TO THE LETTER, the rpm package would start going and then say that it terminated in a bad folder or some crap and then would barf). I finally got that working with an alternate install version, and then tried to install XPde. Here is what I did: I logged in as root into KDE. In my home directory, I had the tar.gz file, so, following instructions, I ran tar #### [filename] and it decompressed except that it said that there was an unexpected end of file or some nonsense. The decompressed files in the new directory matched the internal contents of the tar file perfectly (I snooped it in Konqueror), so I ran ./install.sh and it got most of the way through and started spitting errors like CRAZY. The crossover example: I would install the software, and then it would just FREEZE when trying to configure it, and the only way to close it would be to manually restart the machine (causing massive amounts of errors). Mind you, these were fresh installs. As a user, I want things to work as expected when I run them, not have to debug something for a week before I can even get it installed! Mozilla installed easily, and that was about it ... nothing else I have EVER come across has worked as advertised, even when I follow their walkthroughs to the LETTER. It could just be that Mandrake sucks ... I dunno. I'm going to give the new version a try and see what happens ... I'll prolly try Red Hat after that, and then whatever else you guys recommend after that. I just don't see how the slashdot crowd expects us all to switch to Linux when it is a nightmare to use even for an educated user. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied