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Unread 04-14-2003, 10:10 AM   #53
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Originally posted by utabintarbo
Such "untidyness" is part of the cost of freedom. Just as men are free to be all they can be, they are free to be assholes as well. Totalitarian dictatorships are very orderly!



Need determined by whom?



It is also legal to defend one's life and property. Unless you are the owner of the shooting range.... You get the idea.



This, of course, is the Holy Grail of (nearly) all ethical systems. It is possible with a rational philosophical framework. The problem lies in the lack of such in the dominant ethical "authorities" now extant.

Bob
On the part about defending your life...I do agree that you have the right to defend life, but the problem is that there are more innocent people dying by children playing with firearms, adults misstaking someone in the family for a thief etc. So I believe that using firearms isn't the best way. You can save and protect life by using security system, not having firearms at home, etc... I haven't told you from where my way of life is, since where I live, in my city, there are about 250 000 people, not counting the suburbs. And no one in my whole neighbourhood locks their door, I don't know of a single person who has a firearm at home or even owns one. The latest crime that happend around here was some punks spraying their tags at some buildings and some junkies that stole some trash from our basement. I'm not saying it's paradise over here, far from. But I believe we can all agree that we everyone want's less crimes, violence and killings and they ideas on how to achive the goal are diffrent. But finding out how to work against the problem is important.
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