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Unread 04-18-2003, 05:14 PM   #66
PlawsWorth
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Originally posted by Blackeagle
A bit surprised to see this one got going again after such a long pause.

Plawsworth,

As you seem to be real interested in this topic I'll try to dig up the stats on the numbers of shootings involving young childeren in the US.

Note: I said young children, not minors in their teens involved in gangs or other planned criminal activitys. Outlaw street gangs often in the country use underage teens as "runners" for their illegal activitys. If caught they most often don't go to jail as a adult would for the same criminal activitys, and if they do the time handed down by the courts is a fraction of what a adult would get.

True accidants are extremely rare, such as a child shooting a playmate with daddys revolver that the child thought was a toy, or a wife shooting a child or husband thinking them to be a intruder. Far more people are killed by lightning than in those types of gun accidants. But as I said I'll see what real facts I can come up with.

This may take some time.

BE
The reason for the pause is that i'm quite busy in my life, since i'm going last year in high school and because it's very strenuous writing all the replies since I have to think trough all my thoughts in the head, when I then have answer I have to write it here in english and then I have to read it through and see so that the translation is good enough for you guys. And since I always have have pair off diffrent answers I sometimes delete the answer since it might be very clear in my mind but very difficult to unserstand for other people and the translation may have became a bit odd. But I try my best. When it comes to fact I have watched about 30 documentaries alone that have been about firearms, violence etc but not much books so I don't really want to refer to documentaries since they are always wrong at some facts. But there is a thin red line through that all point one direction so any sane person can see where it's leading. Stats can always been used to show whatever the person whants. If you are good you can compare and show with diffrent diagrams and number diffrent things.

"Far more people are killed by lightning than in those types of gun accidants." That is to me not very useful to know, unless I know % or nr of people. Since if 1million people dies from lightning and 500 000 people would die from guns, guns would still be a very big problem, but if only 50 people are killed by guns and 100 000 by lightning then it would be more intresting. Then I would try finding out why so many people get's killed by lightning.

When it comes to European stats I can acess the swedish stats authorities and check muder stats between 1969-1996 online for free at www.scb.se and get exact stats. Sweden doesn't represent the whole of EU, but most countries are the same, with minor diffrences.
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