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Unread 05-07-2003, 05:05 PM   #4
Alchemy
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Okay, board ate my post. I'll try to rewrite as much as I remember.

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Originally posted by bigben2k
[b]and for some reason, a lot of religions deny that there's any truth in Darwin's theory, which is based on facts and scientifically developped.
Not a lot. Just one.

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This goes back to the days of the Spanish inquisition. If you can't believe that the earth is flat, you'll be excommunicated and jailed.
The Spanish inquisition was late 15th century, the Papal Inquisition was around the 13th century.

At neither of these times was there a widespread belief in Europe that the earth was flat. The Church never, ever promoted the flat earth myth or punished people for not believing it. This is silly as saying people thought Columbus would sail off the edge of the earth - silly history taught by stupid teachers to schoolchildren who don't know any better.

You *might* be confusing this with Galileo, who *was* excommunicated and jailed for, among other things, promoting a heliocentric astronomical model.

The survivors of the Inquisition suffered the sort of tortures and mutilations that, if you get all your history from a sixth-grade book printed in Helvetica 14-point, would be glossed over or called "excommunicated and jailed."

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That's always been a sore point with me, and I was glad to hear the vatican issue a formal acknowledgement of guilt on that issue, but obviously, it's still got ways to go.
If you've ever heard a papal apology, you would realize how stupid this is. Of *course* they didn't admit guilt. They apologized on behalf of the people who "acted in the mistaken belief what they were doing on behalf of the Church," or something like that. The Church is holy; the entity itself cannot admit to wrongdoing or it would not be perfect.

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What I hate about the cookie-cutter aproach, is that it slows progress. If anyone's played Sid Meier's Civilization, then you know that Fanaticism is not something you want.
Is it common for people to learn socio-political models from video games?

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I've also noticed a lot of intolerance between different religions, and we can all see it only too well in the middle east.
How astute.

Alchemy

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