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Yo-DUH_87 · 05-15-2003, 11:01 AM

Grr, some stupid add redirect ate my post, and I had some good stuff there (and this has ruined any chance of me ever wanting to select a life companion from that website

)... This version is shorter and easier on the eyes, though (and you think this one is long, heh, you should have seen the last one)

Regarding a hardware site as mentioned in my last post, you should only do it if you plan on really putting some back-breaking work into it, as it takes a lot of work to run even a mediocre review site

Electronics projects would be good covering different approaches to different problems, as suggested earlier in the thread. One I'd like to see is one written by different authors on fan control, each author doing their own circuits, and then a editorial at the end on who likes what the best and the advantages/disadvantages of the different approaches by all the contributing authors and a uninvolved editor.

I agree in part with Joe, overclocking is becoming main-stream. My first overclock was a p2, and a complete accident! Mobos now have it so that in order to get a "small" 400 extra MHz, all you do is tap the + key a few extra times. While that is convenient that I don't have to break out the needle-nose pliers and start "jumper hunting," it has attracted an entirely "different crowd."

Add in the speed wars, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI, etc...

You now can go the store and buy a computer that can do everything the "average joe power user" wants to do, faster than he can click the mouse button, right out of the box. Why bother risking your expensive processor and warranties with OCing?

And there are all those rich [H]ard n00bs out there that think they know everything about computers, so they go buy the best computer (and, yes pH, that includes a $500 graphics card), rice it to their hearts extent (or pay to have it riced for them), and start showing it off and bragging of their so-called "l33tness." I think they have been real detrimental to the community, and their numbers have swelled dramatically over the last year or so.

I personally am an air-cooled boy, not because I don't want to overclock, but for lack of money. I am even using the retail heatsink on my processor at the moment (horror!). Yes, it is overclocked, but not a whole lot, as I'm limited by the heat condition of my case (currently running a Pentium 4 2.4b @ 2.7, any higher and the entire thing gets too hot and starts becoming unstable).

Thing is, I need to spend the money I have "to burn" on things that can improve the function of my computer. Like recently I replaced my 2 "fuzziod s00per d00per eye killer (tm)" generic CRT monitors with eye pleasing LCDs, instead of something like water-cooling or such. I would love to have h20 coursing through my computer, but it is unpractical for me

I actually was hoping to get something through Pro/Geeks! to start me on my way.

Another thing I would like to see articles on is "cheap yet effective cooling." Nothing involving MacGyver style duct tape holding everything together, but stuff that doesn't involve $100 waterblocks and the such, but achieve an acceptable result.

An example of that would be "how to select a good heatercore, junkyard style," showing how to select the right heatercore for your system, get it out of it's "ex-eternal resting place", and prepare it for use in a WC system. Another example would be on "Making your own waterblock with no special tools involved," a step-by-step guide on using common tools (no drill presses or CNC here, as well as no soldering) to make an mid-range performance waterblock. Doesn't have to be pretty or ground-breaking, it just needs to work better than air-cooling.

Also, in one of your previous posts a while back, you mentioned the possibility of a DVD how-to guide, which I for one would be interested in. There are worlds of possibilities in this realm, such as windows tweaks as others have mentioned.

A simple way to do all of this, could be a revamping of the Pro/Geeks! section, such as broadening the topic criteria. I'm not suggesting you go the entire overclockers.com route, but the steady stream of content would help

The prizes may also offer an additional draw , to encourage people to write a review on that new mobo/graphics card/etc. they just bought. That means you don't have to pay for the hardware, someone already has. Now send them a free shirt

Although, there should be a list of required things for a review, such as tests to run, items that can be reviewed, comparison possibilities, no shameless endorsement, etc.

Phew, I really worked hard on this one...

I may say that I like procooling just as it is, these are just ideas for expansion. (just had to insert that disclaimer

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05-15-2003, 11:01 AM	#29
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	Grr, some stupid add redirect ate my post, and I had some good stuff there (and this has ruined any chance of me ever wanting to select a life companion from that website )... This version is shorter and easier on the eyes, though (and you think this one is long, heh, you should have seen the last one) Regarding a hardware site as mentioned in my last post, you should only do it if you plan on really putting some back-breaking work into it, as it takes a lot of work to run even a mediocre review site Electronics projects would be good covering different approaches to different problems, as suggested earlier in the thread. One I'd like to see is one written by different authors on fan control, each author doing their own circuits, and then a editorial at the end on who likes what the best and the advantages/disadvantages of the different approaches by all the contributing authors and a uninvolved editor. I agree in part with Joe, overclocking is becoming main-stream. My first overclock was a p2, and a complete accident! Mobos now have it so that in order to get a "small" 400 extra MHz, all you do is tap the + key a few extra times. While that is convenient that I don't have to break out the needle-nose pliers and start "jumper hunting," it has attracted an entirely "different crowd." Add in the speed wars, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI, etc... You now can go the store and buy a computer that can do everything the "average joe power user" wants to do, faster than he can click the mouse button, right out of the box. Why bother risking your expensive processor and warranties with OCing? And there are all those rich [H]ard n00bs out there that think they know everything about computers, so they go buy the best computer (and, yes pH, that includes a $500 graphics card), rice it to their hearts extent (or pay to have it riced for them), and start showing it off and bragging of their so-called "l33tness." I think they have been real detrimental to the community, and their numbers have swelled dramatically over the last year or so. I personally am an air-cooled boy, not because I don't want to overclock, but for lack of money. I am even using the retail heatsink on my processor at the moment (horror!). Yes, it is overclocked, but not a whole lot, as I'm limited by the heat condition of my case (currently running a Pentium 4 2.4b @ 2.7, any higher and the entire thing gets too hot and starts becoming unstable). Thing is, I need to spend the money I have "to burn" on things that can improve the function of my computer. Like recently I replaced my 2 "fuzziod s00per d00per eye killer (tm)" generic CRT monitors with eye pleasing LCDs, instead of something like water-cooling or such. I would love to have h20 coursing through my computer, but it is unpractical for me I actually was hoping to get something through Pro/Geeks! to start me on my way. Another thing I would like to see articles on is "cheap yet effective cooling." Nothing involving MacGyver style duct tape holding everything together, but stuff that doesn't involve $100 waterblocks and the such, but achieve an acceptable result. An example of that would be "how to select a good heatercore, junkyard style," showing how to select the right heatercore for your system, get it out of it's "ex-eternal resting place", and prepare it for use in a WC system. Another example would be on "Making your own waterblock with no special tools involved," a step-by-step guide on using common tools (no drill presses or CNC here, as well as no soldering) to make an mid-range performance waterblock. Doesn't have to be pretty or ground-breaking, it just needs to work better than air-cooling. Also, in one of your previous posts a while back, you mentioned the possibility of a DVD how-to guide, which I for one would be interested in. There are worlds of possibilities in this realm, such as windows tweaks as others have mentioned. A simple way to do all of this, could be a revamping of the Pro/Geeks! section, such as broadening the topic criteria. I'm not suggesting you go the entire overclockers.com route, but the steady stream of content would help The prizes may also offer an additional draw , to encourage people to write a review on that new mobo/graphics card/etc. they just bought. That means you don't have to pay for the hardware, someone already has. Now send them a free shirt Although, there should be a list of required things for a review, such as tests to run, items that can be reviewed, comparison possibilities, no shameless endorsement, etc. Phew, I really worked hard on this one... I may say that I like procooling just as it is, these are just ideas for expansion. (just had to insert that disclaimer ) __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!