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Unread 05-16-2003, 01:11 PM   #31
Geoff
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I live in BC and I think those numbers are little skewed. Most of the murders around here are gang related, one gang killing another gang over drugs and turf. Very few regular citizens are "at the wrong place at the wrong time" the gangs are pretty good at killing one another and not letting it boil over into the streets. So for me murders like that don't count because its gangs not the general plublic. And the thing about the asians more or less true. Its not the asian people themselves its the asian gangs. The hells angles run BC marijuana trade and a lot of the other gangs do the dirty work. Operating grow-ops, dealing, enforcing etc. And those gangs tend to be the newcomers which are asian immigrants. Also the local gangs don't seem to do the spray and pray tactic that american ones do, which of course end up killing by-standers. The locals seem to very proficient at killing those and only those they wish to kill. Take the killing of Bindi Johal for example he was a very prominent gang member in the East-Indian gangs. Years back he pissed off some Chinese gang, the Lotus I think, by kidnapping the leader's nefew or brother or something to that extent. Well the Lotus got back at him, while he was downtown (Vancouver) at a club called Richards on Richards, which was packed full of people some lotus hitman entered shot Bindi in the neck and left with out anyone else getting hurt and without being seen either.

As far as crime that effects regular law-abiding citizens here in BC most of it is property crime. I think we're the highest on the continent where as states like texas and nevada are lowest. In fact the city I live in, Surrey, was labled the car theft capital of the world. Everyone around here has been robbed several times, but thats because the theives know no one will do anything ( too layed back? too spinless? too high?). Defending yourself is all but illegal, the thieves don't get prosecuted. The RCMP are useless and are nothing but glorified social workers with guns, who are criminals themselves.

Iroc409's comments are pretty much true about us Canadians but only outside a hockey rink
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