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All I can say is wow. I have really never met a person that is so defiant in actually believing that there is a creator.

But a couple of things. Even if by your thinking there was evolution, how did the first parts of this start? Where did that basic structures for life come about? Just snap and oh... and we all just started as a one cell organizm... interesting... Very interesting. We are all basically and wonderfully made. It is so interesting how people try their hardest to deny that god is real. It fascinates me that most of the people that study biology, or any other study of natural life or anything naturally, and I mean really study, still come to the same realization, everything was created by an intelligent human being. The same thing you can figure out for yourself, without anyone telling you, when you read from the bible, you dont have to go through years and years of study to figure it out.

Yes there have been mistakes in when Armegeddon will take place. As humans we are imperfect. And as people trying to serve god, you must learn not to speculate on anything for the future that isnt in the bible becuase you will be wrong. That has happened in the past. But have learned not to do that now or in the future.

Can you do anything perfectly? I doubt. Doubt you ever will. Can you deny the fact that if you are about to die that you will not want to keep living? Now really think about this one. Why do you feel that way?

"I don't suppose you're reading anymore, though, since you could be excommunicated for having independant thought and questioning your faith (entrapment by threat ... if you can't examine your beliefs on your own, you won't have a chance to question the crap you are fed and you'll continue to pour your time and income into their coffers ... but at least you'll be imprisoning your descendants in the same restrictive bullshit!)." Actually, let's say your daughter was doing something wrong. Perhaps she started doing drugs, but she is of age to be out of the house. You try to help her for what she is doing wrong, you try to give her chances. Also you have other children too, those who are younger or even older, and you can see her influence upon them becuase of her being around. So you have to let her live on her own. You still love her and want to help her. She needs to know that you do not approve of what she is doing, and do not support her in it. By letting her live at home, continually disobeying, do you think she will learn? IN the same way, loving counsel is given to erring ones. That counsel comes from the bible. This person that might do wrong is still loved by everyone, yet why would you let someone communicate with you if they are a bad influence. Besides how is that person going to learn what they are doing is wrong if you continue to associate with them, only making it to them feel that you are supporting them? Thats the reason. "A little leaven ferments the whole loaf" or as many people know this one "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch"

Jehovah GOD can do anything he wants to. If he wants to do something, it will happen. It amazes me that you had the "conjones" to say that god did a s****y job of creating us. Wow. You have as much disrespect for Jehovah as Satan does. There's a difference between you and the writers of the bible. You are not inspired. You do not have god's holy spirit. No matter what you say, your actions and life deny that fact. Just as time, it has not start, stop, nor end. We accept it because we can't prove it wrong. Just as with god, he has been there from the beginning. Even before time.

Oh and a little information on god's name. The Mysterious Name of Y.H.W.H., page 74, Dr. M. Reisel said that the "vocalisation of the Tetragrammaton must originally have been YeHuÃ*H or YaHuÃ*H." Canon D. D. Williams of Cambridge held that the "evidence indicates, nay almost proves, that Jahwéh was not the true pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton . . . The Name itself was probably JAHÔH."—Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft (Periodical for Old Testament Knowledge), 1936, Volume 54, page 269. The French Revised Segond Version, page 9, the following comment is made: "The pronunciation Yahvé used in some recent translations is based on a few ancient witnesses, but they are not conclusive. If one takes into account personal names that include the divine name, such as the Hebrew name of the prophet Elijah (Eliyahou) the pronunciation might just as well be Yaho or Yahou." A German Bible scholar Teller told of some different pronunciations of God's name he had read: "Diodorus from Sicily, Macrobius, Clemens Alexandrinus, Saint Jerome and Origenes wrote Jao; the Samaritans, Epiphanius, Theodoretus, Jahe, or Jave; Ludwig Cappel reads Javoh; Drusius, Jahve; Hottinger, Jehva; Mercerus, Jehovah; Castellio, Jovah; and le Clerc, Jawoh, or Javoh." Thus it is evident that the original pronunciation of God's name is no longer known. Nor is it really important. If it were, then God himself would have made sure that it was preserved for us to use. The important thing is to use God's name according to its conventional pronunciation in our own language.

Oh and about Elohim. The Imperial Bible-Dictionary (Volume 1, page 856) describes the difference between "God" (Elohim) and "Jehovah," stating: "[Jehovah] is everywhere a proper name, denoting the personal God and him only; whereas Elohim partakes more of the character of a common noun, denoting usually, indeed, but not necessarily nor uniformly, the Supreme."

Also those that believe in god should be encouraged all the time to find out the matters and the facts for their own in the bible. Search for truth for yourself by doing research.

Why isnt it logical for god to make us and everything. Why is the easiest answer the hardest for people to take as being the truth?

I wont change your mind. I know that. You have something to look forward to if you choose to. But obviously you don't choose to. I hope your life is a good one, it'll be short, but hopefully good. I bid you peace. I will not argue with you, that is not my intent. It is hard for you to even answer my questions, isnt it. Sorry if they strike you in a certain way. My intent is the sole purpose of being informative on wrongness, although not mine.