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Unread 06-16-2003, 09:08 PM   #1
Gooserider
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Default Clip-0n Athlon WB design (another one)

I'd like to get some opinions on the following WB design which I'm planning for my next system.

The system I'm designing for has to use a clip on type mounting, using the lugs on the CPU socket. I can't use a 4-bolt style because the mobo I'm using doesn't have the holes for it.

I see this as constraining my design in some ways. I don't see an easy way to do a center input for instance, since the clip will be using that real estate for applying mounting pressure.

Instead, I'm planning to do a high flow serpentine pattern with a bunch of turbulence pins in the center part of the passage over the die area. I'm using 1/2" inlet and outlet barbs. My mill is manual, so I can't do the level of fancy curves and such that the CNC guys can put out. This design is all straight lines, so it should be pretty easy to make.

As I interpret the AMD Athlon cooling design docs, I have a maximum width (between the clips) of 63mm (2.44") by up to 80mm (3.2") long. Are these dimensions right?

Assuming that they are, my block will look about like the following <UGLY ASCII ART ALERT!!>

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|.....................................|
|..|-------------------------------|..|
|..|.........................|.IN..|..|
|..|.........................|BARB.|..|
|..|.....|..X..X..X..X..X..X.|.....|..|
|..|.....|.X..X..X..X..X..X..|.....|..|
|..|.....|..X..X..X..X..X..X.|.....|..|
|..|.....|.X..X..X..X..X..X..|.....|..|
|..|.....|..X..X..X..X..X..X.|.....|..|
|..|.....|.X..X..X..X..X..X..|.....|..|
|..|.....|..X..X..X..X..X..X.|.....|..|
|..|.....|.X..X..X..X..X..X..|.....|..|
|..|.OUT.|.........................|..|
|..|BARB.|.........................|..|
|..|-------------------------------|..|
|.....................................|
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<END UGLY ASCII ART>

The block will be about 3/4" thick, with a 1/4" copper top. The bottom will be about 3/16" thick (3-4mm). The walls will be about 5/16" thick, mostly so I have room to drill and tap for #6-32 screws to hold it together. (I'm thinking 3 screws on the short sides and 4 on the long ones (mostly to clear the clip hardware) should be appropriate.) Side question on the screws, Is Stainless OK to use for fastening screws, or should I look for brass or copper screws?

The channels on the outside will be about 1/2" wide to minimize flow restriction.

The X's represent the turbulence area, which I plan to make by using my smallest mill bit (1/8") to cut as many passages as I can at a 45* angle to the block in each direction with about equal amounts of width for the channels and the pins. I think I should be able to get at least 5 sets of channels into the space which will give me a bigger flow area than the side channels, but a lot more turbulence.

What do people think? Will it work reasonably well?

I know it probably won't even come close to some of Cathar's blocks, but I don't think I need to. I would like to think I can match some of the commercial efforts. FWIW, I am planning to use a high volume pump such as an Eheim 1048 or 1250 or equivalent, so what I don't get in cooling quality, I should make up for in volume.

Comments and suggestions are welcomed and appreciated...

Thanks,

Gooserider
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