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I've just spent the better part of an hour reading a thread involving Graystar and the discussion about Flowrates and effectiveness of cooling depending on flow. I must say there is a great degree of engineering intelligence on this board. I definately wont try and pretend that I understood the technical majority of the thread.

I do however have a degree of trust in the technical prowess of the people in this forum as a result.

While I am not a technical wiz, when it comes to thermal management, I do consider myself a business wiz. I came to this board asking a few questions about TEC cooling since I was trying to build something to cool my CPU without using a radiator.

I elected to not use a Radiator since a Radiator can only cool temperature down to ambient level and I was looking to cool the water somewhere 10-20 degrees F, lower than ambient. Also size and the need to have extra cable running around the computer was taken into consideration.

Here is the business angle of it all,

This all started as I looked at products that were commercially available to cool drinks at $30 and lower (manufactured cost) it was amazing that these mini refrigerators were available at such a low cost and small form factor. In some instances these products were of very high manufactured quality.

I took a look at gallery pictures of overclocked watercooled computers and of pre-made kits and hand picked kits and I saw the same thing, cables hanging everywhere and generally things looking like they took an awfully large amount of effort to put together. I believe the look of watercooled computers has turned off alot of the mainstream users whom would adopt watercooling if it was made easier and more cost effective.

Well to make a long story short my goal was to design a device that beat the kits and all in one units using radiators and at a sub $50 manufactured cost.

So I chose to use TEC, since this technology (using an 80W tec) can be purchased less than $5 each, a heatsink/fan can be purchased less than $7, a decent pump can even be engineered for the specfic purpose of CPU watercooling and likely mass manufactured less than $10 each.

I've seen directly mounted TEC onto the CPU ala swiftech and it doesnt seem to be very efficent (at this point it has a bad marketing rap) and when it works it emits too much heat back into the computer case and it prone to failure.

I'd like to create a TEC water cooled entirely external unit with a small form factor. Since finding this forum I've found that this group seems to be the right group of people that I should work with.

I'd like to have the product be designed by the forum and I will bankroll the project every step of the way into what will be a product designed by everyone here. Of course from a business I will have every person involved compensated one way or another and will have to figure that out if and when a product looks like it can be produced.

Andrew