QUOTE "As stated there is no way to determine at present how much heat is distributed away from the original core area with that spreader and the new core size and voltages. "
I have found personally that there is no way to determine how a new chip and new heat spreader dissipates heat from a picture or paragraph. I also have found no way to guess as to how a waterblock designed for cores of X size using heat spreaders of X composition at X voltage will effect it and how.
Cathar, in your case your ww block did awsome because it was designed for a very narrow definition of tight constraints to work in a well placed way. Kudos for your good work. Take away these somewhat, and I am left guessing as to if its the appropriate without modification later down the road. This is what this topic was meant to address.
However, I also do not know how your waterblock jet or channels designed to be (just guessing 1mm from core) will behave with an additional 1.5 mm of heat spreader under it. What you have left is a WW that has a new base thickness and another joint to transfer heat. This sounds like something that could effect it... shouldn't it?
Those numbers from amd are real, but I personally do not understand how it can directly relate to thermal properties and if anyone can judge from schematics how a block will do or wont from the equations. Im not that good, and not about to guess how it benifits or can subtract from an existing block not tooled to these new factors. To dismiss or accept a block working outside of its narrow confines takes either faith, experience from similar tests, or testing when it comes out.
I was hoping this thread could beat the new ideas coming with some preconcieved ideas how we could make our "champs" concepts to deal with the new changes. Not a threat directed at Cathars block, and frankly this topic wasn't expressly to even suggest that any one block couldn't work with this new core covering. However, now that you mention it, I would think the new core may not allow the same numbers as we have come to expect from ANY block.
In fact with these new core coverings and specs, it would seem logical to test as to the efficiencies and see if the carry though. Doesn't this seem prudent to address?
Edit: Ya know.. i re-read this and it sounds confrontational, arguementitive. I don't want it to sound this way. I just wanted to discuss what this means for the future. Readers.. cathar, please take it in thie spirit. I'm not saying you are wrong cathar, just help me explain how the efficiencies of past tests could pass on to this one, or the changes wouldn't need to be accounted for.