[airspirit]

This is an interesting discussion because you both are right in different ways.

Nuson is saying that you can't apply science and engineering to block design because they are chaotic systems ... which is right if that can be translated into "sometimes intuition can prove fruitful." Any other interpretation, however, is ludicrous. Even considering the chaotic environment inside the block, chaos always boils down to an underlying order ... it is reality. Things always react in a certain way under a specific stimuli ... it is the way it works. It just happens that on the grand scale that this leads to entropy ... but that's a whole seperate topic.

As far as jaydee's statements go, he is right regardless of how you look at it. If you do a review, you need to be accurate. When I post temps and temp changes, I make it known that I'm not only using wildly inaccurate socket probes, but I also don't have exact measurements on anything else either. I can, however, measure by relativity. While this reviewer may have been redeemed via relativity, he didn't keep things equal in all tests nullifying his results utterly. To put any weight in them is absurd.

As far as attacking senior forum members goes, I take a harsh view of that for what it's worth. Jaydee has proven his knowledge and expertise in certain areas for a long period of time, and coming onto a thread spouting nonsense is what will get you smacked down by those with more expertise on this forum. It's happened to all of us, though many of us don't set ourselves up as spectacularly as you. What I find unforgivable is the personal nitpicking that is in Nuson's tone, even considering how generally ... roughedged (much like myself, though I tend more toward asshole than roughedged) he can be. Whether you (Nuson) want to admit it or not, your posts dripped of sarcasm, and that doesn't go over too well with anyone (and this is something I know well because I am one sarcastic SOB). Unfortunately, your sarcasm wasn't of the playful variety: it was definitely mocking.

If you want to attack those with greater experience, you better have more than "you never know" as proof to back up your claims. That kind of amateur bullsh!t doesn't fly around here, and that is the reason that this is one of the greatest cooling sites you'll ever find. If you want to blow smoke for entertainment, go do it on the [H] with the rest of the web's collected morons. Don't expect [H] style mealy-mouthed nonsense to take you far around here.

I have to disagree with Jaydee on one thing, for what its worth. Stick around. Learn the craft. Try to understand what we're talking about (I get lost in some of these discussions and I have my own level of expertise). It's the only way to better yourself ... and I'm sure you want to be more knowledgable, right? Just be sure that until a little bit of the group collective knowledge rubs off on you that you don't go attacking people again. Not only does it make people despise you now, but puts a stain on any future progress that you might help the community make. As for myself and many others here, however, we won't permit this place to become the cesspool that some other tech forums have become out of sheer obstinance. Please behave.

I'm going to stop preaching now ....