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Unread 08-08-2003, 06:18 PM   #30
jaydee
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Originally posted by winewood
First you have to understand public domain. Cathar released many pre final concept ideas in the forum. This was contructed with critisism and suggestions from several parties. Proving this was a single inventor is/will be impossible. Since nothing more than a design patent could ever be issued and not a concept patent... those takes 1-3 years to establish.
Federally you have to include all inventing parties on the patent application. Knowing this wouldn't hold up with all the posts out there of others contributing and the entire project being in public domain... goood luuuck. Any later party could contest the patent at any time. That just makes it impossible to claim in entireity as ones own.

Okey dokey.. since this isn't one persons work, already released into public domain you have a snowballs chance in hades of sending anything more than a scary letter to the guy.
NOW lets consider that this guy may make <$1,000 US for his trouble. Involvement with a lawyer would cost $150 per response with a court fee of 15k minimum to fight this. Having no money on the infringers side makes him judgement proof. Therefore a win wouldn't be a win... but a rediculous waste of cash.
No you aren't automatically copyrighted. You must submit the proper forms.. look at THIS LINK

Look, I am rooting for Cathar more than you could ever know. The guys a brain trust and makes wonderful contributions to the level that he could not ever be compensated enough. However, this "I wanna protect his ideas" outside of reality, common sense, and basic understanding of public domain it just not a healthy expenditure of time and talents. If I wanted to produce a LWRR looking block, I am only limited by my laziness on walking to the machine shop and placing an order. Cathar is truly lucky to have such a loyal following, and passionate protectors. Keep trying, but it only makes an interesting read in the long run.


holy scmoley.. curse my inability to spel.
My speellling sucks to, but it had quotation marks around it, couldn't resist an imature cheap shot at your expense.

As for the rest of your post I would partially agree. I think maybe you are mixing up the White Water with the Cascade some though as I do not remember a lot of outside help on the White Water but certainly do with the Cascade and he even stated it in his threads.

But putting aside the copyright issues he is still blatently lieing in his advertizment. That block is not the "BEST" for "ANY" water cooling setup. In fact he could cause damage with this statment if someone bought it for a hot TEC and it couldn't keep up and ended up frying the CPU. Or if someone bought it to replace a Koolance stock block and ended up raising temps because the extreamly low flow pump on the Koolance.

It is unfortunate this kind of BS happens on e-bay and e-bay has all these little disclaimers and TOS thay protect them from this. E-bay probably doesn't give a rats ass aslong as they can't be sued for it. Hell the guys other auctions are porn and illegal porn in some places to boot.

Oh well, I feel it is our job as water cooling hobbiest's to stand by the ligitimate people like Cathar and hammer the illigitimate people like to fool on E-bay. They only harm our hobby.
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