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Originally posted by winewood
What if we come up with a general setup.
Pump X. Radiator X. Tubing X feet long. Ability to measure water temp, ambient temp, cpu temp via thermistor under cpu. Cpu a 1700+ at default settings. No case. Arrangement, flat out with no component higher than the other. 1/2 OD tubing. Temperature using "cpu burn in" with no error checking measured every 5 minutes for 1 hour.
With these exact setups, anyone using the standard measure will have a comparable CW. If we make the equipment standard, and common, everyone should have access to the system or someone who does. The equipment can be items we already have graphs for. If we change the flow or head, we do it by changing from... eheim 1250 to a 1048 to a 1046.
Is this a start? Even if everyone cant agree on the exact accuracy, we will at least have a reference and know the shared strengths and shared weaknesses. Perhaps if we contributed to one persons setup, they could test for some of us.
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Not really. What your not picking up on is you cannot measure a (usable) C/W with onboard testing of any kind even with decent hardware that pH is putting together. Why? Because you need a consistent watt output that you know. We do not know the true watt output of a CPU. Therefor you cannot measure the C/W as watts are half the equation. Another problem arises in the fact that every board (even the same model) varies the output with it's different tolerances in voltage control AND each CPU will yield a little different than another (one reason why some CPU's overclock much better than others).
So what this leaves us is just temps. Which then again is still unreliable because of the above. One system may not be even close to an identical system sitting next to it!
We have two problems here. #1 the average Joe spamming useless temps around thinking he is leet when he is not. #2 the block tester representing a site such as pH does here. These are two different problems that need two different standards.
As for #2 it is not such a big deal (well it is but..) being everything is isolated to one setup.
As for #1 we have all the problems that have been mentioned above and the simple fact people are generally lazy and cheap and un-whiling to do any of this but have no problem being a spam whore of ignorance (as pH and unregistered knows I was once one of these).
I doubt that to many people with the exception of a few care to take measures to back themselfs up with either #1 or the #2 problems. Evidence is the recent thing that I got banned over. A whole site devoted to ignorance and they are spamming it onto their readers and they are proud of it!!!! Seriously!!! They think decent testing is a joke and not worthy of their readers time.