Warning, severely blunt comments to follow. . .
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Originally posted by bigben2k
Maybe it should be open, and I mean wide open, but just like the simulator forum, I'm afraid that it's not going to go anywhere, because it would lack leadership. Forums don't tend themselves well without some form of leadership, or some kind of ownership IMO.
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Bah, it doesn't go anywhere because:
"A" Anyone with brains enough to do it right is smart enough to realize that financially it is a fool's venture.
"B" Anyone without enough brains either gets frustrated and gives up or educates themself and then falls under category "A".
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If we leave it open, then I can moderate it, and just delete the irrelevant, newb posts that we don't want.
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Whether intentional or not, this is hilarious. "I" can moderate and delete posts that "we" don't want. You're nearing 6k posts, Ben, and reign supreme as leader of the "newb" post count.
On a serious note, this only "goes somewhere" when the right someone takes it to heart. Look around folks. The only way someone does something like this is with a company bankrolling the expenses or if they've got money burning a hole in their pocket. Oh, and then there's Bill, who through his dedication has proven to have at least one or two screws loose. People that make that sort of investment of their time, money, and talent are very rare indeed, and judging by Bill's demeanor that's probably a good thing.
Lest I be accused of being nothing but a nay-sayer, let me offer some constructive suggestions.
1) Figure out what the true goal is.
2) Ask yourself what/whose talents are required to reach the goal.
3) Ask yourself the cost (time, money, education, etc.) of reaching that goal.
4) Ask yourself what the return is.
5) Decide if the return is worth the investment.
While lots of people around here clamor for "good testing data", those that demand good data are a drop in the bucket of world-wide computer users. It's a thankless task. It's a task with no immediate (and potentially never reaching a) monetary payback. Then there's the simple fact that picking an acceptable block is a lot easier than properly selecting/designing the whole system. ie, the range of "good" block performance pales next to the variations from available tubing size, pump performance, radiator/fan selection, etc.
I would submit these are the reasons this has never gone anywhere, not because of any "discussion" that's gone on in the forums.