I believe folks get confused about Bill, after all it is just his style. When I used to train dogs, I followed the Koehler method. (And no, I don't think of you as dogs, this is just an anology). For those of you who are not familiar with that method, it involved pleasure and pain. My wife was apalled at that as she believed in the positive reaffirmation method. Both work, it is just that one is viewed as being more humane. Guess it depends on ones perspective...

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