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Gooserider · 10-19-2003, 10:08 PM

I hope they kissed you, and promised to respect you in the morning before they took your money... You didn't get anything I would consider a bargain. (although the price wasn't bad as WC setups go)

As I recall the reviews I looked at when starting to investigate WC gear, that unit didn't seem to impress anyone greatly. Noise and thermal efficiency were about on a level with an OEM HSF, and the hassle factor was fairly high.

Looking at it with a bit more knowledge these days, I'm quite underwhelmed.

The pump - Wimpy is all I can say... I wouldn't try to use any sort of restrictive blocks, or add any additional blocks beyond the one that comes with it. As a comparison, your pump is rated 70 Liters per HOUR, with a 550mm (approx 20") max head. My Iwaki MD-20RT, which is only mildly overkill is rated at 30 liters per MINUTE, with a max head of 4+ METERS or 14 FEET...

The Rad - definitely small, and putting it in that fake drive unit looks to me like very likely to be bad for the airflow, plus it's just using case air to cool the rad, so you're going to need still more fans to get airflow through the case.

The block - a milled serpentine passage is a pretty lame design by modern standards. That they feel the need to have a supplemental cooling fan I think says all that is necessary about the quality of the watercooling!

They don't seem to specify the tubing size, but I suspect it is 1/4" or less, which again is only minimally adequate.

The fans - Tiny, Whiny, LOUD... Adding the noise levels of non identical fans is difficult, but I estimate that you will have about 40dBA w/ both fans on high, and 33dBA on low, PLUS the additional fans needed to get the heated air out of the case...

The res - Small capacity, as I recall the reviews also said it was difficult to fill.

My reccomendation would be to not even mess with this unit, but instead to start fresh and build a GOOD quality system using high grade parts. Any effort to use the parts from this kit is going to seriously compromise your ability to cool the system overall.

Gooserider

10-19-2003, 10:08 PM	#4
Gooserider Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Billerica, MA, USA Posts: 451	I hope they kissed you, and promised to respect you in the morning before they took your money... You didn't get anything I would consider a bargain. (although the price wasn't bad as WC setups go) As I recall the reviews I looked at when starting to investigate WC gear, that unit didn't seem to impress anyone greatly. Noise and thermal efficiency were about on a level with an OEM HSF, and the hassle factor was fairly high. Looking at it with a bit more knowledge these days, I'm quite underwhelmed. The pump - Wimpy is all I can say... I wouldn't try to use any sort of restrictive blocks, or add any additional blocks beyond the one that comes with it. As a comparison, your pump is rated 70 Liters per HOUR, with a 550mm (approx 20") max head. My Iwaki MD-20RT, which is only mildly overkill is rated at 30 liters per MINUTE, with a max head of 4+ METERS or 14 FEET... The Rad - definitely small, and putting it in that fake drive unit looks to me like very likely to be bad for the airflow, plus it's just using case air to cool the rad, so you're going to need still more fans to get airflow through the case. The block - a milled serpentine passage is a pretty lame design by modern standards. That they feel the need to have a supplemental cooling fan I think says all that is necessary about the quality of the watercooling! They don't seem to specify the tubing size, but I suspect it is 1/4" or less, which again is only minimally adequate. The fans - Tiny, Whiny, LOUD... Adding the noise levels of non identical fans is difficult, but I estimate that you will have about 40dBA w/ both fans on high, and 33dBA on low, PLUS the additional fans needed to get the heated air out of the case... The res - Small capacity, as I recall the reviews also said it was difficult to fill. My reccomendation would be to not even mess with this unit, but instead to start fresh and build a GOOD quality system using high grade parts. Any effort to use the parts from this kit is going to seriously compromise your ability to cool the system overall. Gooserider __________________ Designing system, will have Tyan S2468UGN Dual Athlon MOBO, SCSI HDDS, other goodies. Will run LINUX only. Want to have silent running, minimal fans, and water cooled. Probably not OC'c