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Originally posted by pHaestus
Ben is posting to post and to hear himself talk not to advance anyone's understanding. He has shown himself incapable of learning from what he reads. And he has now set himself up as an expert. And why not; he has thousands of posts on procooling after all! Such is life.
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I can't say I fully agree with the comments towards Ben, I do belive he wants to learn and make a difference for the positive. Maybe his ways of going about it are not well accepted here, and maybe justly so....
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There is a clear difference in reading a review on the web and saying "meh, this is crap" and reading a proforum member's post where he produces numbers and saying "this is complete bullshit go get some better tools". Notwithstanding the complete lack of tact, you aren't ever going to get improvements with this approach. When someone is trying to contribute to our community then just running them off (which is what happens) is not a good idea.
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This is interesting and I know I have issues on this matter. But when I see something totally off the wall of reality I have a hard time with it. Such as the Player0 numbers. I will continue to work on my tact. I have been trying.
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The number one criteria for testing is desire to do so. It is a rare sort that doesn't mind repeating tests until they are satisfied with the reproducibility and error levels. In fact everyone works up to doing quality reviews (which is my current task in fact). If you want to write up articles then by all means do so. Just take inventory of your limitations and then try to devise ways to work around them.
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I agree totaly, but does this do anyone any good if the results are not good? You can have the best intentions, but does that justify you doing it if you can't do it correctly. (and what is correctly?)
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As an aside, you might want to check that MCWchill thread in my worklog for some comments about the CPU backside temperature measurements. There are some nuggets of info buried in there about how mobo components are affecting CPU backside temps at low coolant temps.
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I actually have been following that thread closely. Very interesting stuff!