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Cova · 11-05-2003, 03:23 PM

In this case, an arguement could be made that RMA'ing the processor to Intel is a valid thing to do. If you contact Intel, inform them that you fried a CPU they made while installing a high-performance/non-standard cooler, and you believe that the overheat-protection on your CPU is at fault for the CPU frying, you have a perfectly reasonable case for them to look at. And if Intel decides to replace your processor due to faulty overheat protection then congratulations.

But if you say you have a faulty processor for any other reason, it is lying and theft.

Anonymous: I truly hope your karma gets back at you - for lack of a better way to put it. I (and many other people here) are promoting ethics to make our own lives easier - it is in our own self-interest to do so. People like you that try and return everything they can is the reason that horrible RMA policies at many companies exist. Every time someone breaks a perfectly good product and tries to RMA it, it gets a little bit harder for me if I need to RMA something that is actually faulty sometime in the future.

All these computer companies could make things easier on themselves and on us if they'd just put a little jumper/dipswitch/something on their products to enable OC'ing/clock-unlocking/volt-moding/etc. and then put a security device over top of it that can't be removed without leaving physical evidence (and obviously a "warrantee void if tampered with" style warning). All the OC'ers would be happy because we wouldn't need to jump through hoops to do what we like, and the companies would have a significantly lower rate of RMA's of products that people have broken. eg. if AMD just put a single set of pins on all future AthlonXP's, and made them very easy to connect to unlock the multiplier, and put a perforated sticker with really good glue over the entire thing, we could stop with all the reverse-engineering of which pins do what and stuff and get back to OC'ing. And the number of OC'd CPU's that people fried that also still have that sticker intact would be quite low.

11-05-2003, 03:23 PM	#41
Cova Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 247	In this case, an arguement could be made that RMA'ing the processor to Intel is a valid thing to do. If you contact Intel, inform them that you fried a CPU they made while installing a high-performance/non-standard cooler, and you believe that the overheat-protection on your CPU is at fault for the CPU frying, you have a perfectly reasonable case for them to look at. And if Intel decides to replace your processor due to faulty overheat protection then congratulations. But if you say you have a faulty processor for any other reason, it is lying and theft. Anonymous: I truly hope your karma gets back at you - for lack of a better way to put it. I (and many other people here) are promoting ethics to make our own lives easier - it is in our own self-interest to do so. People like you that try and return everything they can is the reason that horrible RMA policies at many companies exist. Every time someone breaks a perfectly good product and tries to RMA it, it gets a little bit harder for me if I need to RMA something that is actually faulty sometime in the future. All these computer companies could make things easier on themselves and on us if they'd just put a little jumper/dipswitch/something on their products to enable OC'ing/clock-unlocking/volt-moding/etc. and then put a security device over top of it that can't be removed without leaving physical evidence (and obviously a "warrantee void if tampered with" style warning). All the OC'ers would be happy because we wouldn't need to jump through hoops to do what we like, and the companies would have a significantly lower rate of RMA's of products that people have broken. eg. if AMD just put a single set of pins on all future AthlonXP's, and made them very easy to connect to unlock the multiplier, and put a perforated sticker with really good glue over the entire thing, we could stop with all the reverse-engineering of which pins do what and stuff and get back to OC'ing. And the number of OC'd CPU's that people fried that also still have that sticker intact would be quite low.