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Whinewood, your comments toward Bill and pHaestus WRT to bias in the technical data they produce, just shows how ignorant and/or stupid you are.
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Bias is not alway seen in numbers, sometimes its what is left out or marketing in conjunction with numbers can be bias. Testing one manufacturer with their hand in the pot (or yours in theirs) can be seen as bias or yields to it.
Cathar admitts, eloquently as usual, that people percieve bias when dealing with a manufacturer. The question then leads to.. why do they? Apparently Bill leads to the concept of tell people what to think and they will. Not necessarily with his test data but with his own perceptions of "what is". Communicating perceptions or his own judgements in an effort to bring down competition in a manner exhibited much stronger than in a non-commercial block leads to my understanding.
Apparently the golden calf of testing has brought sheep to defend the cause, but ignorance of bias does not dissipate it REGARDLESS. I have the right to my opinion. I have based my reasoning. Apparently someone has hit close to home or this thread would have faded along time ago. I invite EVERYONE to re-listen to the 1st posts radio link.
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you (winewood) said:
"Bill accused Joemac of not releasing numbers as an example of being bias."
(bill) really ? - you are incorrect, and/or a LIAR
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The answer stems from this post on the nordic review for Aquajoe
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but you wish to 'hide' your numbers
that is bullshit
are you lying ?
or do you consider this just good salesmanship ? (aka lying and making money off of it)
bah
using reviewers numbers as a sales strategy has been discussed here many times
it is a good technique only for an inferior product
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You are calling Joemac bias here. Marketer or salesman making his product look good by not posting technical data. If you understand the definition of bias, this is it. Therefore I justify my statement of "Bill accused Joemac of not releasing numbers as an example of being bias." I stand on my statement.
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Quoted by Unregistered using reviewers numbers as a sales strategy has been discussed here many times it is a good technique only for an inferior product
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aside: So Bill, why are you using pH to review Swfitech's stuff? Is that an admission of an inferior product? Per your OWN words?